El Hierro

[kevin2003]

[jand]

Copied from Avcan

Translated


http://www.01.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/CHIE/imagenes_sismica/DIA_SP/CHIE_2011-11-16_sp.jpg

Tremor signal takes up without stopping since noon today increasing especially low frequencies and less high frequencies, raising its intensity at this time 35-45% in amplitude. If continues this behavior would not be rare the opening of new mouths.

Also, in the area of seismic activity in the North of the island, according to the energies accumulated liberated seismically curve we find already in the third window of high activity, by what would be nothing strange to be given the moderate earthquake > 4.5 this evening-morning (Henry)

PS: Here is the reminder of the self-protection measures before seismic movements or volcanic eruptions

[jand]

Copied From Avcan

Good evening to all and all. The tremor is impressive but what we have seen as well at other times. Pressure can force the opening of another mouth or increase the explosivity of which is opposite La Restinga. In any case, as has already been said repeatedly, calm and wait events, still pending official releases and bearing "in mind" self-protection measures.

[fifi]

I dont remember ever seeing the tremor this size before. Pity its dark on the webcam.

[jand]

There is a lot of unrest on El Hierro this evening from the people living on the islands.

As far as I can understand its because of the signal strength of the harmonic tremors all day and someone from Avcan has stated they think tonight there will be a stronger earthquake (last time they predicted correctly the timing of the last 4.3 from working and taking figures from all the previous graphs).

Below copied From Avcan and Translated.

The truth is that the continuous tremor to grow, is more than 100% this morning and it is reaching levels that not we saw from the 12th of October, shortly before opening the mouths eruptive continue so and produce a sharp downturn will have a new mouth opening in the area of la Restinga... We'll see what happens. (Henry).
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Over 161 comments have been posted to read them please look at the Avcan Facebook page they will need to be translated.

[jand]

http://www.01.ign.es/ign/layoutIn/geofisicaCuesmaCuesmaTerremotos.do

Another 3.1 which has been felt on the island.

http://www.ign.es/ign/layoutIn/volcaDetalleTerremotos.do?evid=1112927&zona=2

[fifi]

Video showing the pyroclastic material coming from the jacuzzi.http://lacernidera.com/?p=5241

[jand]

copied from Earthquake-report.com


Update 16/11 – 21:00
 - A very strong harmonic tremor since many hours. We expect more eruption activity at least the following hours.
 - The scientists station at La Restinga who is monitoring the air quality has NOT recorded any unusual values at the moment
 - At 20:32 a M 3.1 earthquake was felt by the people of the north.
 - Readers who have witnessed the first phase of the eruption which started on October 9 will certainly recall a similar colorful stain as the beginning of a series of activity events. Among them :
 - October 9 – shallow earthquakes to the south of El Pinar (current eruption area)
 - October 10 (04:00) : start of harmonic tremor
 - October 11 – a colorful stain is noticed (still a lot of discussion whether the color meant an eruption or not)
 - October 11 – La Restinga people are evacuated to other parts of the island
 - October 13 – first images of a dark brown concentrated substance (what we call now a vent)
 - October 13 – RapidEye satellite images show a very concentrated vent (about the same location than the current vent)
 - October 16 – The burbuja or Jacuzzi appears in front of the coast.
 A range of all kind of Jacuzzi's, stains in different colors and other activity until November 10
 - November 10 : Joke reports a Jacuzzi, color free Las Calmas sea
Current phase
 November 13 – A new stain is forming
 November 14 – new brownish dark grey nucleus in the greater stain
 November 16 – very noticeable vent to the south of La Restinga
 The following dates ? : We expect gradually stronger submarine eruptive action creating a new jacuzzi and magmatic material arriving at the surface (this expectation is based on the first eruptive phase

[jand]

Copied from Avcan even the Spanish now are asking the question could all the other Canary Islands be affected by whats happening on El Hierro.

Yo pienso lo mismo,por algún lado tiene que salir,y una pregunta,si hace erupcion en tierra puede afectar a las otras islas?,porque una vez que estuve en tenerife y subí al teide me comentaron que si el teide entraba en erupcion las siete islas canarias temblarian,y digo yo eso podría pasar si hubiese erupcion dentro de la isla del hierro?,gracias
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La persona que me lo dijo fue uno de los guardias que están arriba donde para el teleférico

[jand]

The last earthquake at 21.42 was on land.

 http://www.ign.es/ign/layoutIn/volcaDetalleTerremotos.do?evid=1112938&zona=2

[fifi]

The Americans are panicking suggesting that they put out a flood warning in Port Canaveral to Earthquake report.

 Twitter.

CapH_1 Terry
May want to flw if on coast. @VolcanoReport: Volcano (Canary Islands) Continued very strong harmonic tremor - wp.me/p1bAUO-7Bw
54 minutes ago

[Florence]

quote:Originally posted by woe10

quote:Originally posted by TripleH

jand, I honestly think you could be heading for a breakdown

jand is definately loosing the plot,  going to end up in a loony bin at this rate. Can´t Admin do something.

Now they´re mentioning volcanoes fly over houses.[][][][]

I feel that I am reading posts of somebody who has lost their grip on reality.  The relentless posts, (how many today?), the occasional incorrect assumption/loony tune theory, etc. I am genuinely concerned.  People are actually encouraging her too - and I think they should think again about doing so.

[fifi]

There are lots of messages like this one being sent on Twitter

LaCernidera  (La Cernidera is a newspaper http://lacernidera.com/)


an emergency situation and must be very careful about the information we distribute


 (Update on this) One of the other reporters replied saying that PEVLOCA have not issued an emergency warning so who knows? El Hierros tweeted recommendation was for the reporters  to wait for the report to come from PEVLOCA if they usually only report official information  but that they are slow.

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Vibrations on one of the other Islands

# ElHierro
 vibrations sent information about a neighbor, we can not verify this information, only redistribute) (La Palma is the Island they are referring to)
28 minutes ago

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# ElHierro
 Scientists scientific agencies  (CSIC, IEO, IGME) complain that they are not given measurement data (This was reported in the news today also)

[SurfJames]

Hi Jand and fifi,

Just come in after a difficult shift at the hospital and catching up on the latest news. 23670 hits!! You two are amazing and the quality of your post are brilliant.

Thank you and keep them coming. I have learnt so much about volcanic activity. This is gripping imho.

[jand]

Florence Quote

I feel that I am reading posts of somebody who has lost their grip on reality. The relentless posts, (how many today?), the occasional incorrect assumption/loony tune theory, etc. I am genuinely concerned. People are actually encouraging her too - and I think they should think again about doing so.

Florence I can say the same about you losing your grip on reality.

You may wish to bury your hand in the sand whats happening at the moment on El Hierro but over 23000 people on this forum dont aswell as the rest of the world!!!!!

All my posts are information and facts that have been copied and pasted and are what other people including scientists and geologists and goverment organisations are saying .

Not once have I personally made any assumptions and I do not pretend to be an expert on volcanoes but other people are and I am quoting what they are saying and reporting facts as they are happening.

FYI see below and I suggest you take off your rose tinted glasses and get a grip on reality yourself!!!

http://www.01.ign.es/ign/head/volcaSenalesAnterioresDia.do?nombreFichero=CHIE_2011-11-17&estacion=CHIE&Anio=2011&Mes=11&Dia=17

[jand]

SurfJames

Thanks for your comments .

[jand]

Copied from jonfr.com/volcano

From the look of the map of EQ locations on El Hierro it looks a though the majority of the EQs from the last 36hr form a very good straight line. Could this be the rift forming that breaks the surface (below or above the water)?

Brian Smith says:

 November 16, 2011 at 23:19

the line looks even tighter if you ignore quakes below 19km.

KarenZ says:

 November 17, 2011 at 02:00

They appear to be parallel to the NNW-SSE rift. The other EQs are in the same area so probably do not need to be excluded. Suspect that this is probably continued rifting of the ocean crust.

KarenZ says:

 November 17, 2011 at 02:01

http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/jpg/Eventos_HIERRO_2D.jpg

[jand]

http://www.avcan.org/?m=Gps

Deformacion of the Island.

Cuesta bastante trabajo, pero en AVCAN estamos constantemente buscando toda la información que esté disponible en cualquier rincón, para hacerla accesible al público. Es la idea fundamental que generó la cración de AVCAN.ORG (Víctor)

Translated

A hard enough, but in AVCAN we are constantly looking for the information that is available anywhere, to make it accessible to the public. It is the fundamental idea that generated AVCAN cración.ORG (Victor)

[jand]

Scientists from official bodies denounced the opacity of the data of El Hierro

The Vice President of the CSIC supports in an internal note that there was lack of coordination in the eruption-there is critical because data Iceland are more transparent than the Canary Island
Scientists from government agencies such as the Consejo Superior de Investigaciones Científicas (CSIC), the Spanish Institute of Oceanography (IEO), the geological and mining of Spain (IGME) or the State Agency of meteorology (Aemet) reported at the meeting of the coordination of Madrid, on 10 November, that even they have access to official data of the eruption of El Hierro. Thus contained in the summary of the meeting by Francisco Montero de Espinosa, Vice President of the CSIC, he has sent to the participants and that this newspaper has had access.

A dozen institutions experts recommend installing more seismographs in El Hierro

Scientists say that the CSIC retains about what is happening on the island to monopolize publications

Unrest among scientists grows by the concealment of information needed to study the phenomenon and to publish in scientific journals and perform research. Scientists criticized that they had access to all data of the volcanoes of Iceland but that in the iron, the National Geographic Institute (IGN) retains information to monopolize publications. The CSIC did not want to comment on the minutes of the meeting, the Canary Islands already sent a complaint.

"We see that they are not in open access for researchers all the scientific data being obtained by institutions that advise to the PEVOLCA," says the summary made by Espinosa Montero.

El Hierro is the first volcanic eruption in 40 years in Spain and has revealed a deep divide between the agencies that can be studied. First was the delay in asking a research vessel, the lack of experts in vulcanology in IGN and the reopening of the tunnel of the island against scientific studies.

The note by the Vice President of the CSIC supports "have been at the beginning some lack of coordination with scientific groups connoisseurs of the volcanism of the iron." "Detected deficiencies or needs that should meet in the best possible way in order to proceed with the follow-up of eruptive activity", although also notes that the management of the IGN "is being very professional and correct".

At the meeting, attendees called for a "systematic collection of samples of eruptive products", a "comparative bathymetry" to "determine the exact depth to that found the volcanic edifice" and analysis "of the tremor signal collected through seismic array in order to determine the existence of one or more sources of tremor, which could indicate the existence of other eruptive centers elsewhere in the zone"", as for example the northern area of the island".
 http://www.elpais.com/articulo/sociedad/Cientificos/organismos/oficiales/denuncian/opacidad/datos/Hierro/elpepusoc/20111116elpepusoc_19/Tes

[jand]

Copied from IGN
http://www.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/pdf/2011-11-16_Resumen_Diario_El_HIerro_IGN.pdf
Translated
Deformation the deformations follow the same pattern of stability from the previous days in the horizontal components. There is a clear subsidence in the vertical component of the stations located throughout the island, except for the area of the Gulf in which persists a slight tendency to elevation, though less pronounced, between the Los Llanillos and Pozo Health (west of the Gulf). The eastern zone of the Gulf remains stable in elevation.

[fifi]

Thanks Surfjames. Its a fascinating insight into the way Governments work. The situation is being totally monopolised at the moment with only last minute warnings being given by PEVLOCA.

 It is now widely reported that Scientists and Volcanologists have been fed incorrect information or no information at all at times and they are banned from speaking about the situation publicly.It is no wonder that the Population are so alarmed.

 Mount Teide had a continuous saturated tremor line like El Hierro has at the moment for quite a while before it blew. Its a very interesting time for volcano watchers like ourselves.[]

[SurfJames]

Thanks fifi and jand.......I've become an avid volcano watcher too!

I find it apalling that freedom of speech is shutdown again and again in all spheres of life, and by so many countries.

Scientists should be left alone to collect the raw facts...data....and turn this into useful information, without this ridiculous gagging order.  [!]

[woe10]

quote:Originally posted by SurfJames

Hi Jand and fifi,

Just come in after a difficult shift at the hospital and catching up on the latest news. 23670 hits!! You two are amazing and the quality of your post are brilliant.

Thank you and keep them coming. I have learnt so much about volcanic activity. This is gripping imho.

Most of the hits are there´s !!!!, and the others are people having a laugh at the bits in between. [][][]

[TripleH]

Woe, I know you can get rhubarb crumble at Puerto Neuvo in Cotillo, perhaps a phone call to them?

http://www.puertonuevocotillo.com/menu.htm

All main courses served with a choice of potatoes: sautéed, garlic, onion, plain, creamed, chipped or jacket; side salad or vegetables according to availability – please see our specials board.







Salads

Mixed salad

€4.50



Tuna salad
€5.50



Chicken salad

€5.50



Prawn & avocado salad

€7.50







Hamburgers

Quarter pounder beef burger

€3.50

(100% Irish Beef)

Quarter pounder with cheese

€4.00


Terry's special burger

€4.50


Chips (per portion)

€1.50







Kids menu

All main courses are also available as children's size portions

€4.00



Spaghetti Bolognese

€4.00



Pizza

€4.00



Chicken nuggets

€4.00



Sausage

€4.00



Fish fingers

€4.00







Desserts

Ice cream
€2.50



Homemade apple crumble
€3.50



Homemade rhubarb crumble

€3.50



Cheese board

€4.00



Chocolate gateaux

Edit. Oops this reply takes up too much space, with info not necessary to Woes request. How do I condense it?

[fifi]

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Earthquake-Report.com is proud that our main article on the El Hierro volcano eruption has been shared 75,000 times just now. We might have set a world shares record on Volcanology.  Our reporting of the Van, Turkey earthquake has been shared 42,000 times, probably also a shares record in seismology. We have to thank our thousands of daily users for their confidence.

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[fifi]

The best webcam for close up shots at the moment.... http://www.ustream.tv/channel/acn-media Whirlpool at the moment.[]

[SurfJames]

I'm having trouble getting on the webcam fifi......

It's a bit over loaded due to the high volume of traffic at the moment. [][][8D]

If the whirlpool is getting more active again, then there must be a lot more activity down on the sea bed. That lava flow is covering a large area, and logically it must start building up when it has expanded far enough across the floor.

Any more news about the increase in heat in the cliffs along the sourthen coast?

Edit: I'm on-line. That looks pretty ferocious to me, and don't you think there are two areas quite close to each other?

[SurfJames]

That sea looks to be racing across the harbour entrance.

If the wind changes course and blows towards the island, there's gonna' be a real problem with the sulphuric gases going across the island. So far the gases have been blown out to sea - generally.

[woe10]

TripleH,  thanks for the info about the Rhubarb. Used to go there quite a lot, great restaurant. I´ll check it out for the Rhubarb supplier.

[fifi]

I know it off by heart Woe [][][] Yes two of the areas look really close together and the sea was amazing to watch earlier on Surfjames. Wish it would hurry up and blow though[]




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Only 9 small earthquakes today and none since 9 am so this means that volcano is storing energy. The tremor is still saturated and has increased further.



La Palmas graphs today.[]







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The  Helium enrichment is between 4,000 and 35,000 times higher than normal in the sea south of La Restinga (Maybe thats why the sea looks so bubbly)[]

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The depth of the vent closest to La Restinga is estimated to be 156 metres. The second vent deeper in the Las Calmas sea is approximately 400 metres deep. (Instituto Español de Oceanografía).

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A lot of journalists are tweeting about large Pepinazo @ 16.25 in the Gulf at the moment but I cant get a translation for the word.