El Hierro

[fifi]

Oh great ....must have a look.[]

The photo of the new eruption (For some reason the colour did not copy properly....sorry)



Its a little misty at the moment on the webcam. Will try later. Thanks jand.[]

[fifi]

Landslides identified in the tunnels Roquille
Monday, November 7, 2011 16:57 acnpress
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  One of the security guards in the Roquille tunnel informed the Emergency Coordination Center and Security (CECOES) 1-1-2  about movements and the existence of small rock falls in the area  especially in the near the mouth of La Frontera.

The ACN CECOES Press confirmed that this situation was detected on 16:16 hours on Monday afternoon and the rocks did not come, in no case fall on the road, even if they find a certain instability in the area cause, probably the last earthworks.(strange translation)

At the moment the National Geographic Institute (IGN) has not confirmed at that time there was a tremor that justifies these landslides, earthquakes have been detected if more than two degrees during most of the day on Monday, almost all with epicenter at north-West Frontier and depths between 16 and 30 kilometers.

The biggest earthquake  felt by the population of El Hierro, especially in the town of Mocanal about 6:19 am this Monday  reached three degrees on the Richter scale. The movement occurred at a depth of 21 kilometers northwest of La Frontera

[jand]

This is with regards to the loss of 2 days data.

Worse, there was a holiday, and in Espain they like to fiesta, so there was no one about...

quote:

Las alarmas saltaron el 31 de octubre. El 1 de noviembre fue festivo y el 2 se comunicó a los departamentos del Gobierno de Canarias implicados en el control. Las estaciones GNSS habían dejado de emitir la información de los Rinex –Receiver Independent Exchange, un formato de ficheros de texto que almacena los datos- al servidor principal durante los días 28, 29 y 330 de octubre a consecuencia de "un fallo en la actualización del sistema", según documentos oficiales.

The alarms went off the 31th of october. The 1st nov. there was a holiday and the 2nd they communicated it to the departments of Gobcan implicated in the control. The GNSS stations had stopped emitting the information of RINEX – Receiver Independent Exchange, a format of text files that store the data – on the main serverdurante during the days of 28, 29 and 30 october, due to "an system update error", according to official documents. ...

http://www.libertaddigital.com/sociedad/2011-11-07/canarias-pierde-datos-vitales-de-la-erupcion-de-el-hierro-por-un-error-informatico-1276440614/

[jand]

Update 07/11 – 18:09 UTC :
 - Joke Volta sends a message that the size of the jacuzzi is constantly changing at the moment (she can see the jacuzzi now from her garden at El Pinar)
 - The webcam they have installed at El Pinar is of NO use as only big eruption may be seen with it. We need uregntly an HD webcam which can eventually be directed by Raymond or somebody of AVCAN, in other words skilled people.

www.earthquake-report.com

[jand]

Update 07/11 – 17:57 UTC :
 The whirlpool activity is still very strong and so is the harmonic tremor graph who is still saturated.  The graph shows almost continuous submarine explosions.  The current activity is needed to feed at least 3 active vents who are spewing magmatic material into the sea.  Sometime later today or later this week,  on condition that the current activity continues, the explosive phase or Capelinho's / Surtseyan phase will start.
 www.earthquake-report.com

[fifi]

Re jands article from the press about the missing information "The alarms went off the 31th of october. The 1st nov. there was a holiday and the 2nd they communicated it to the departments of Gobcan implicated in the control. The GNSS stations had stopped emitting the information of RINEX – Receiver Independent Exchange, a format of text files that store the data – on the main serverdurante during the days of 28, 29 and 30 october, due to "an system update error", according to official documents. ..."



The truth of the matter is that the IGN knew before 31st October about H104 not operating. I have them on Facebook. The Islanders started demanding information from 29th October onwards. (an example here)

María Angeles Cenández
¿¿ QUÉ PASA CON LA HI04 ?
Like · · 29 October at 23:54 ·

Eventually after so many similar posts from the Islanders and some members of AVCAN they replied....

 National Geographic Institute of Spain - CNIG
HI04 The receiver had feeding problems due to failure in their batteries. Currently, this process of repair. There are 7 more receivers on the island who are recording and transmitting real-time information to the scientific committee that analyzes the data. The HI03 is very close to the damaged receptor in which data can be retrieved. We hope shortly to restore the information to the HI04.
Like · · Translate · Share · 31 October at 11:31 ·


They then started to hide some of what is posted by the Islanders and  issued a new message....

Note on the Facebook page of IGN-CNIG
by National Geographic Institute of Spain - CNIG on Monday, 31 October 2011 at 10:59

Dear community



In recent days there has been a large number of publications by the fans on our wall of IGN-CNIG page. We are delighted to enable everyone to post your comments, complaints, suggestions, etc ... and really appreciate the participation in this channel.



In any case we would like to clarify some issues to avoid creating inaccurate expectations about the functioning of the page:

    The Facebook page of IGN-CNIG is a two-way communication based on respect for everyone. The messages that are deemed disrespectful of either party will be hidden

[jand]

This has just been posted on Avcan but I cant make out if this relates to the loss of data at the end of October or if it means data from the last couple of days.

I have just read this again and it does say data from the last couple of days.

This is turning into a complete circus IMO.


A computer error loses the Canary Island Government data on the volcanic eruption of El Hierro


DirectorioEl iron
Canary Islands Government
Canary active geodetic network
Global Navigation Satellite System




VALVERDE (EL HIERRO), 7 Nov. (EUROPA PRESS)-


A computer error have been losing the Canarian Government part of the data collected during the last few days on the volcanic eruption in the waters of El Hierro, according to published ABC quoting official documents.


In this way, and according to the newspaper, technicians from the regional executive work to recover the information processed by the stations of the Global Navigation Satellite System (GNSS) that make up the active geodetic network of the Canary Islands (belonging to the Canary Islands Government).


This computer failure causes should be an error in the update of the system that processes the data, so on 28, 29 and 30 October artifacts of the GNSS stopped issuing information of the Receiver Independent Exchange Rinex - format of text files which stores the data to the primary server.


For its part, the Canarian Government pointed out that problems occurred in one of the stations and that the volume of lost information cannot be determined.

[fifi]

My reading of it is that they only went to process data from 28th/ 29th/30th  in the last few days and are saying that they only found out on 31st that the station was no longer working properly and so could not process the data.

[jand]

Yes Fifi I think you may be right so it does relate to the data lost at the end of October.

There are a lot of messages just now on Avcan that vibrations are getting a lot stronger someone said it is like just before the last 4.3.

[fifi]

Must keep an eye out so.[]

[jand]

Fifi

Do you know anything about this?

Nationwide test of Emergency Alert System set for 1 p.m., Nov. 9


Online Staff Report

CHICAGO — The U.S. Department of Homeland Security's Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), in cooperation with the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), will conduct the first nationwide test of the Emergency Alert System (EAS). The nationwide test will be at 1 p.m. Central, Wednesday, Nov. 9.

"A national test of our Emergency Alert System is a step towards ensuring that our nation is prepared to deliver critical information that can help save lives and protect property," said Andrew Velasquez III, administrator for FEMA Region V in Chicago. "Because there has never been an activation of the EAS on a national level, FEMA views this test as an excellent opportunity to assess the readiness and effectiveness of the current system. It is also important to remember that the EAS is one of a number of systems that can provide information during an emergency."

The national Emergency Alert System is an alert and warning system that can be activated by the president, if needed, to provide information to the American public during emergencies. NOAA's National Weather Service, governors, and state and local emergency authorities also use parts of the system to issue more localized emergency alerts. The test is part of an ongoing effort to keep the nation safe during emergencies and strengthen resiliency against all hazards.

Nov. 9, the public will hear a message indicating that "This is a test." The nationwide test will involve television and radio stations across the United States and the territories, and is similar to emergency alert system tests that are conducted frequently on the local level.

A national test will help the federal partners and EAS participants determine the reliability of the system and its effectiveness in notifying the public of emergencies and potential dangers nationally and regionally.

"It is important to understand that everyone has a role in being ready for disasters or emergencies. This test is a perfect reminder for individuals, families, communities, and businesses to prepare for emergencies," said Velasquez.

Visit www.Ready.gov for more about how to prepare for and stay informed about what to do in the event of an actual emergency.

[fifi]

No jand. I did see several comments the other day about contacting the CIA to keep an eye on things though on AVCAN.

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El Hierro is being promoted in London.

Europa press (translated)


El Hierro is present in the stand of the Canary Islands of the World Travel Market (WTM) in London, dedicated this time to show the beauty of volcanic islands because the islands aims to value its active volcanism, reporting that natural phenomena like submarine eruption process underway in the southwest of El Hierro islands allow to have a unique beauty.

The Ministry of Tourism of the Cabildo de El Hierro, who heads Veronica Montero, tourism is in the sample with the aim that "the British discovered, thanks to a submarine eruption, the westernmost of the Canary Islands, a World Biosphere Reserve ". In fact, images of the underwater volcanic eruption audiovisual material chairs the space devoted to the archipelago at the fair.

El Hierro, "the island of a thousand volcanoes" as touted his Ministry, wants the British tourists are encouraged to find alternative tourism in the Canary Islands, besides sun and beaches. "We came to London convinced that there is an important segment between the British lover of culture, hiking, sports related to the natural environment and enjoys distinct and not crowded places such as El Hierro case," said Montero.

Iron working for months on a project related promotional volcanoes along the islands of Fuerteventura and La Palma. So, the island now packed in its network of trails to integrate information about volcanoes and prepares its first tourist guide of terrestrial and submarine volcanoes.

Meridian Island wants faithful tourists, as divers, not only know the value of its rich underwater flora and fauna, but the extraordinary natural setting that volcanism gives seabed, full of lava flows, craters, tubes and volcanic caves.

Tourists who visit the stand of the Canary Islands the next few days will have the opportunity to see several examples of in situ volcanic material ejected by the volcano fissure that ejects material at this time south of El Hierro.

A message of peace

El Hierro has wanted to be present in the framework of the World Travel Market, to send a message of reassurance to the various tour operators, brokers, and individuals and companies linked to international tourism, with a delegation headed by Veronica Montero, Minister of Tourism of the City Council El Hierro, which until the 10th of November, visitors to try to recover the island of Meridian.

Speaking to CanariasRadio The Autonomic, Montero said, "By chance, this eruptive process in El Hierro has coincided in time with a campaign were working in the Ministry of Tourism and all the islands of the Canaries, a project called 'Canary volcanic experience', and is the first year that they took actions to promote our destiny as a volcano. "

"Since the General Directorate of Security and Emergency of the Canary Islands and from the council itself is working and ensuring the safety of both residents and visitors of the island. For our part, we need to be here because the information because the first few days were dumped in various media, created much uncertainty, much fear, so that we consider very important to be present in London and explain first hand All we ask how it is currently the situation in the island, what is happening, day by day, and convince them that you can travel to El Hierro ".

From the area of tourism are concerned about the cancellation of bookings on the island, though we are delighted with the presence of journalists and scientists who have alleviated some of these low-, the fact is that many of these reserves were large periods common in this time of year have been canceled, because it has generated uncertainty, in general, due to ignorance.

"Undoubtedly the entire government team Cabildo de El Hierro are concerned about the situation that is beyond the village of La Restinga because we realize that many of its inhabitants live off tourism, live dive centers, restaurants, apartments, etc.., and now all the tourist activity in the area is numb.

The Cabildo de El Hierro provides two pyroclastic the Princes of Asturias

During the visit of the Pricipe of Asturias Canarias Pavilion of the World Travel Market, the president of the Canary Islands, Paulino Rivero, were given two pyroclastic rocks or fragments that have been collected from La Restinga eruptive focus, a gift the City Council of El Hierro, these distiguidos visitors, who came from the hands of Veronica Montero, Minister of Tourism of the City Council of El Hierro.

[woe10]

I JUST GOT BACK FROM PAUL´S TATTOO AND PIERCING STUDIO IN CORRALEJO

[fifi]

There will be no gasses going up those nostrils thats for sure.[][][]

[jand]

Update 07/11 – 19:41 UTC :
 Raymond Matabosch : It needs to be confirmed, but I have the impression that a faint red light is glowing from time to time in the Las Calmas sea. The ground is almost continuously trembling, underground explosions seem to succeed in a very short time ..
 Original text : ça demande à être confirmé mais j'aperçois, de temps à autre, de petites lueurs qui rougeoient sur le plan d'eau de Las Calmas... Par contre le sol est en permanent tremblotement, les explosions souterraines semblent se succéder dans des temps très brefs...

[jand]

Important Update 07/11 – 19:58 UTC :
 Raymond Matabosch :  There are tiny red lights on the water ... probably when the underwater explosions are strongest. I counted them at least six times in almost two hours. During daylight we would probably have see vapors with ejections of ash and pyroclasts that accompany these little redness ...
 Original text : Il y a de toutes petites rougeurs sur le plan d'eau... probablement lors de certaines explosions sous-marines les plus fortes. J'ai compté au moins six fois en presque deux heures. S'il faisait jour il est probable ont pourrait voir des vapeurs avec des éjections de cendres et de pyroclastes qui accompagnent ces petites rougeurs

[Magoo]

quote:Originally posted by jand


Fifi

Do you know anything about this?

Nationwide test of Emergency Alert System set for 1 p.m., Nov. 9

Who knows, it might have something to do with the sun spot which is lining it's self up for a pot shot at earth. You would have half an hour or so to run round & unplug all your elecrical stuff.

Or maybe they are about to nuke Iran

[kevin2003]

quote:Originally posted by Magoo

Or maybe they are about to nuke Iran

Can't be far off.

[Magoo]

Hope they hold off until December when I finish my Fuerte 10 days[]

[Florence]

The red light was someone on this forum being abducted by aliens.  All is explained.

[fifi]

[][][]They havent beamed me up yet.

Some of the residents in El Hierro have not received any wages in over a month and are starving. They say that the aid being offered to them is an insult.http://www.diarioelhierro.es/t26496/pag02.asp?id_registro=140731&Id=26496&BDi=INICIO&Md=

[duncolm]

So, the eruption could break the surface soon, maybe even start to form a new island. I suppose that there could be the chance of an ash cloud forming and disrupting flights if that happens.

Since Michael O'Leary is so skeptical about the necessity of flight cancellations, it will be interesting to see the Ryanair reaction if it comes to that.

[fifi]

Welcome to the Forum Duncolm.[] There is a chance of an ash cloud when it erupts. Studies were done about two weeks ago based on the data given  (incorrect data) and it was believed that if it happened it would only effect flights on the Islands. Recent reports say that the eruption could be 20 times stronger due to a recalculation of data so who knows? It may just continue to erupt as it is doing in the sea or even calm down for a long period of time. We just have to wait and see.

[Florence]

These eruptions have been compared to that of Surtsey (off the hotspot of Iceland).  That lasted for 4 years.  I have a feeling that this thread is going to be more than 3 pages.......

By the way - Surtsey - no loss of life (although a few cod bought it - enough to start the odd war or two, but thats another story), no tsunamis and the Icelanders coped ok with the smell of sulphur in the morning.

[duncolm]

Thanks Fifi

I've been following this story for quite a while. I just got to musing about ash clouds.

When Chile's Puyehue-Cordon Caulle volcano erupted in June, the ash cloud was blown all the way across the Pacific and disrupted air traffic in New Zealand and Australia. It was then blown all the way round the world and caused more disruption 2 weeks later when it came back!
I don't suppose there will be such a big problem in the Canaries. A Chilean volcano on the Ring of Fire must be a lot more powerful....

Florence, I think Surtsey was a lot more than a couple of miles from the nearest village, so the smell of sulphur might be more of a problem in El Hierro.

[fifi]

Spot Volcano Captured By El Hierro Deimos-1
Photo: DEIMOS-1

MADRID, 7 Nov. (IRIN) - Europa press translated by Google

    The evolution of the stain caused by volcanic eruption underwater in the island of El Hierro is being reduced by moving the open sea and covers an area of 83.5 million square meters (8340.5 hectares), as can be seen in the overall image captured by the Spanish satellite 'Deimos-1' on Saturday, November 5.

    With respect to highlighted in a box in the image detail can be seen that the  diameter of the volcanic bubble is 640m, and covers an area of hectares (0.34 million square meters).

    The satellite 'Deimos-1' is the first European satellite Earth observation entirely private capital. Powered by Elecnor Deimos, Elecnor technology division, is designed for high resolution ground images for further processing and use in various applications from the field of agriculture to the environment, to defense, climate change, deforestation, fight against natural disasters or control of water resources.

    The main instrument of the satellite are six cameras looking at Earth with a detail of 22 meters and allowing to acquire images in three spectral bands. The added value of the satellite 'Deimos-1' to the space segment of nearly 20 meters, among other factors, the broad sweep that put their pictures close to 640 miles.

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Photo taken tonight in La Restinga. An observer has said that he can see red light coming occasionally from the mouth of the volcano.

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Underwater video on this link http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2011/11/07/natura/1320689104.html

[falkirkdan]

Getting reports from Caletillas of extremely high and low tides last few days at Cotillo. I have been checking tide tables and this should not be the case. Today low time predicted to be only 0.7mt above datum and from the report the reef of the Custom House Bay (El Tornio's as was) was uncovered. These tides would not appear to be atmospheric pressure influenced as if very high pressure you could get very low low tides but the high tide would also be low and this is not the case. The pressure today was 1019mb

Could be we be seeing effects from the volcano occurring?

[fifi]

I dont know Danny. I havent read anything about it. I must keep an eye on the coastal warnings.

[falkirkdan]

Wow that is some photo!

[jand]

Update 07/11 – 22:28 UTC :
 Raymond Matabosch : There are still little red glowing lights from time to time ...  And I ask myself if this is not a reflection of the magma flowing under the water ... Too bad that it is total darkness to be certain ...
 Original text : Il y a toujours de petites lueurs rouges de temps en temps...  Et je me pose la question si ce n'est pas le reflet du magma qui s'écoule sous l'eau...  Dommage qu'il fasse nuit pour en avoir le cœur net...
 Joke Volta : It looks like i see a ship  navigating at the edge of the stain (or rather what i suppose to be the edge of the stain). It is shining his floodlight over the water.  Joke thinks that it will be probably the Roman Margaleff oceanographic ship. If it is indeed the Roman Margaleff, we will expect him to analyze the gases and to make a new topographic map of the erupting vents.