El Hierro

[fifi]

Hopefully not.[][]

[kevin2003]

quote:Originally posted by fifi

Hopefully not.[][]

Will the lovely Fifi save me?

[fifi]

Not a chance, im off to a party.[]

[kevin2003]

....and for goodness sake could someone advise "Admin" to reset to GMT-1.[|)]

[kevin2003]

quote:Originally posted by fifi

Not a chance, im off to a party.[]

My apologies Jand......you were saying?[8]

[Magoo]

quote:Originally posted by jand

People are being taken out of their houses in their pyjamas looks like it was just the older people.

Who would keep a house in his pyjamas? Strange folk indeed!

[jand]

Canarias7.es

Translated from Spanish

Late this afternoon, just before sunset, intensified the underwater eruption-lifted a bubble similar in height to a building with two floors-the show has been witnessed by numerous neighbors who even applauded-out steam, ash and solid materials to a greater extent than in previous days. -In less than half an hour have has carried out the transfer of the population

[kevin2003]

[jand]

IGN and CSIC scientists have noticed ash particles in the steam coming out of the jacuzzi's. We have the impression that the Ramon Margaleff may have informed Pevolca, as the oceanographic ship was seen on the grey stain close to the vents.

Update 05/11 – 20:46 UTC :
 Joke friend, the La Restinga Human webcam , just arrived from the village. She said that a car with loudspeakers is driving through the village calling for the evacuation. UME (military emergency unit) is helping with the evacuation. People are calm and are overpowered with what happens.
 At first people of La Restinga thought that the big black bubble was a boat. They were really surprised that it was the volcano getting more active.

[jand]

msnbc.com

Spewing volcano forces Spain to close island port

Officials order away ships, restrict aircrafts from waters around La Restinga


updated 1 hour 3 minutes ago

MADRID — Activity by an underwater volcano has led Spanish authorities to shutdown access to a port on El Hierro island, officials said on Saturday.

Ships have been ordered away from waters around La Restinga and aircraft have been banned from flying over the island's southern tip.

The port's 600 residents were evacuated Tuesday after volcanic activity began.

The regional government of the Canary Islands says scientists have detected airborne volcanic fragments called pyroclasts rising from the sea off La Restinga.

The government said it awaited scientific reports on the danger posed by pyroclasts, but a research vessel that was collecting samples there has been ordered to desist.

TV channel La Sexta reported Saturday that journalists also have been told to clear the area.

[jand]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GeTJXRMGtcU

[jand]

Copied from Jonfr.com/volcano blog



Personally... I am cautious. I try to be pragmatic and not let my fear or concern drive my life. So... I try to couch everything I speculate on with the simple fact that what I observe... if it is outside my field of expertise... is just the observation of an armature.

The last thing I need to do is to scare the number two out of somebody. I've had those little panic stages in life and it isn't fun. (Tornado took the roof off a house I was in and a few years later Ivan damned near shredded my neighborhood)

So... ALWAYS TAKE WHAT I SAY WITH A GRAIN OF SALT

It is highly likely that I am wrong.

During the early stages of this event, to the north of the island a series of quakes occurred over several weeks. Doing a time – position plot, it seemed that magma was being emplaced in structures paralleling each other. Each new batch of quakes would run alongside of where the previous quakes had occurred.

This when on for a while, then the swarm moved south, increased in depth and magnitude, and then Little Bob was born. I have stated before that I think the swarm hit the far southern side of the island's base and had no where else to go, the quakes sort of stacked up like they had hit a wall. My guess is that was the stress cause (probably magma) fracturing the rock there.

How it got from that depth to the surface with virtually no quakes is still being kicked around on this and other forums. My money is on the Jurassic sediment base being much weaker than volcanic rock (gabbro) of the crust.

Now we have Bob getting ready to peek it's head above water, and the current focus of seismicity is back to the north under where the original "dike fill" event happened. Only this time... it's really deep. No bones about it, it's clearly in the mantle.

But above this swarm, and lower than the "dike fill" region, is a collections of quakes set apart from either group. Statistically, if you look at the depths of the "dike fill" quakes, this new batch is within the 95% range of the depths for the "dike fill" batch. It's almost spooky seeing how clearly they follow that lower boundary.

Now, if that's spooky, this is totally unnerving.

In the mantle quakes, you can see batches that seem to be angling upward towards that "stand apart" group. And the over all trend of those clusters seems to be getting shallower.

Now... a caveat. The human eyeball-brain interface is designed to seek out patterns. It's a species survival thing. This also means that we tend to see patterns in everything. It could be that, or it could be real.

I can't state one way or the other.

So.. if this is real, and it eventually crossed into the area where the "dike fill" quakes were at, what happens? The whole she-bang is still north of the Island, and the only surface manifestation of this activity is a putative little volcano that we have called Bob. (well, in this forum).

Ideas?

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Lurking says:

 November 5, 2011 at 21:42


I guess the graphic would help.

http://i44.tinypic.com/x6jzlz.png

[pennylane]

this is interesting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cib0ZKliJhw&feature=related

[Florence]

quote:Originally posted by fifi

Not a chance, im off to a party.[]

That's what I like to see.  A life!

[n/a]

quote:Originally posted by jand

Copied from Jonfr.com/volcano blog




So... ALWAYS TAKE WHAT I SAY WITH A GRAIN OF SALT

It is highly likely that I am wrong.

Think that about sums it up. []

[fifi]

The latest image....20 metres high.

[jand]

www.earthquake-report.com

Update 06/11 – 05:40 UTC :
 53 people living at the northern side of the island have also been evacuated out of some areas of Frontera because of the fear for landslides

[jand]

www.jonfr.com/volcano

This is a short blog post about latest events.
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Earlier tonight a Surtey eruption started in El Hierro volcano. Before this phase did start there has been increased harmonic tremor on seismometers that are located on El Hierro Island. Volcano ash is to be expected while water can still get into the crater. When the water does no longer get into the crater it is going to stop making volcano ash. The ash plume can go up to 3 to 10 km high, depending on the strength of the eruption. New vents have also been opening up south of town of La Restinga. That means the fissure is still growing, at least that was the case yesterday and earlier today from what I can gather. I am unsure of that has continued or stopped.

Earthquake activity still high north west of the town of Frontera. This suggests that fissure might open up there. But so far that has not happened. I do not think this are earthquakes due to tectonic stress changes due to the eruptions in south El Hierro volcano. But this stress changes are because of the magma injections at depth in El Hierro volcano.

Harmonic tremor from the eruption in El Hierr volcano. It now shows clear signs of explosions (strong ones) and increased eruption activity. Copyright of this picture belongs to Instituto Geográfico Nacional.

If new vents open up closer to the shore there is going to be instant Surtsey eruption activity. But that might only last for a short while the water gets into the crater. There the lava stage is reached much sooner then on the vents that are erupting on more depth at the moment.

I am going to post more updates on this. If I can get more details on what is going on.

[jand]

www.jonfr.com/volcano

M. Randolph Kruger says:

 November 6, 2011 at 02:30


La Cueva de Don Justo is a lava tube located at the southern tip of the island, between the mountains of Hiram and the fishing village of La Restinga, near the Mountain of the Dead, about 100 meters from the road linking the towns El Pinar and La Restinga.

A single entry gives access to the top of the crook and from here develops on a a north-south line with a length of 1,360 meters and a vertical drop of 135 meters, finishing near the coastline. Its interior is very labyrinthine, with a total development of its galleries of 6315 meters, with several crosses and overlay of tubes which are the results of a prolonged eruption, being the third longest in the Canary Islands after Tenerife Wind Cave and Cueva de Los Verdes on Lanzarote. In some sections there are up to eight parallel galleries, often intersecting or overlapping.

Note the presence of stalagtites in the roof. The humidity is high and the temperature is the highest recorded in Canary caves, ranging between 21 and 22 degrees Celsius. The cave fauna is home to varied and interesting, highlighting troglobites and some species, like the cockroach Loboptera Ombriosa Meridionalis, spider Spermophorides CIEJ Justoi Anophthalma Collart, all endemic to El Hierro and the last two only known to Don Justo.

Neat, so now we know about the lava tubes and its a confirmation really. If it breaches into a tube that comes to the surface someplace there is going to be an eruption and in a place we aint expecting it.

In 1963 it founded a caving and mountaineering Hierro, whose foundation was signed in writing within this cave.
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[jand]

Lurking says:

 November 6, 2011 at 04:56


Yeah... about those caves.

"The humidity is high and the temperature is the highest recorded in Canary caves, ranging between 21 and 22 degrees Celsius."

Thats 69° to 71°F. Thats also a bit higher than most other caves that people lurk in. (Lurking should be an Olympic sport)

"... Caves also played a role in the development of a major industry in St. Louis; the brewing of beer. Before the invention of refrigeration, the only place that a brewery could lager beer was in cool caves. Missouri's caves, at a constant temperature of about 56°F (13°C ), were a perfect place to lager beer..."

http://mostateparks.com/page/55122/cave-history

"... Wind Cave for instance, the mean annual surface temperature is 47°F(8°C), yet the temperature in most parts of the cave (away from the tour routes) is 55°F(12°C) ..."

Wind cave is kept warm from the geothermal gradient in the area.

http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/env99/env223.htm

So here we have El Hierro, laced with caves... sitting at a relatively balmy 21°to 22°C.

Talk about your residual heat.

www.jonfr.com/volcano

[jand]

http://www.01.ign.es/ign/head/volcaSenalesAnterioresDia.do?nombreFichero=CHIE_2011-11-06&ver=s&estacion=CHIE&Anio=2011&Mes=11&Dia=06&tipo=2

[jand]

Data Update 06/11 – 08:20 UTC :
 - continuous strong harmonic tremor since midnight. The IGN graph is almost saturated which normally means a lot of volcanic activity.
 - also continuing volcanic earthquakes in the El Golfo area, but the ceiling since midnight stands at 2.9 magnitude
 - 17 earthquakes equal or greater than 1.5 have been listed by IGN since midnight UTC

[jand]

Data Update 06/11 – 08:44 UTC :
 - "The beast decided to came out of the water" as the newspaper La Provincia did describe at least 2 geyser-like blurbs poetically! The blurbs are containing ash, magmatic material and gases and are jumping 20 meter out of the water. Raymond Matabosch reports from his viewing point that during every burst which can be well seen on the harmonic tremor graph, a geyser-like swell jumps out of the sea. (see below). We expect that this will be continuing for a while.

Graphs showing on www.earthquake-report.com

[jand]

www.earthquake-report.com

Latest Update says the Frenchman who is reporting from the coast has had to leave the area because of the increase in toxic gasses being released .

[kevin2003]

[fifi]

I disagree....Ignorance is not bliss in situations like this. The Islanders were being treated like mushrooms...kept in the dark and fed a load of BS until they stood up for themselves and demanded their right to proper information. They were let down by the Spanish Government who refused to pay the money for the Telephonica ship to survey the area, eventually given a ship with an ROV which could not go into an eruption zone because the temperature would effect the cameras, given lame excuses by the IGN for Seismic stations not working, could see with their own eyes that sections of graphs were being cut out so as not to alarm the population, told to put a hankie soaked in vinegar over their noses and mouths when visiting contaminated areas and they would be grand ......I could go on and on. If I was living on the Island I would feel the same as them and have no faith in the Government or what I was being told. There is a lesson to be learned from all of this.  Im off my soapbox now.[]

The latest from the Government

11/06/2011 ... 11:53 - Ministry of Economy, Finance and Security

Evacuees may return to their homes for a maximum of one hour

The direction of the Civil Protection Plan for Volcanic Risk (PEVOLCA) has cleared this morning, controlled access to the village of La Restinga and homes evacuated in the town of Frontera.

Evacuees may return to their homes for a maximum of one hour, after spending the controls.

In the case of La Restinga, access is permitted from 08:00 to 18:00 and control over it will be located on the road to El Pinar-La Restinga HI-4, at the junction of Tacorón. Also, people who are evacuated overnight in the Residencia de Estudiantes de Valverde and want to go to their homes will be transferred in one of the buses of the Emergency Military Unit to the town, may also remain in their houses a maximum of one hours ..

Border for evictions, access to their homes is permitted from 10:00 to 11:00, after calling the Emergency Coordination Centre Island and Security (CECOI) to the phone 922 555 112. Access will be controlled by the local police of the municipality.

Evolution
Following the completion of reconnaissance flight that took place in the early hours of today and the analysis of the various data provided during the night and morning, one can say that there has been a decrease in activity so that the eruptive process is in a normal situation. The focus of eruption continues at the same distance from Punta Restinga, a mile, and not evident at this time the phenomenon of dampening plumes observed yesterday. The spot has acquired a brown tone and maintains a certain level of bubbling.




It insists on the recommendations

The Canary Islands government insists that people follow the recommendations set out in case of earthquake.

Protective action in case of earthquake
If you are inside a building is important
* Do not leave the building until the end of the movement.
* Seek shelter under strong structures.
* Stay away from windows, windows, cabinets, walls and objects that can fall and get hit.
* Do not be in the kitchen.
* Do not use the elevator.
* If the movement is strong, once completed, turn off electricity, water and gas.
In a public building (supermarket, cinema, library, etc)
* Do not run terrified towards the exit.
* Stay away from windows or glass doors.
* Take cover under heavy structures.
* In areas with shelves (libraries, archives, supermarkets, etc..) Exit corridors where the shelves and bend his knees, with the sides of the shelves.
* At school, have children and students kneel beneath his desk, putting a book on the head.
If the shock is surprised on the outside is desirable
* Keep calm and have saved the others. Try to control any panic.
* Go to an open area, once away from damaged buildings.
* If there are damaged buildings, not between them
* If you are circulating slowly drive the vehicle stop, do not block the road. Turn on the radio for the state authorities and special recommendations on possible roadblocks.
* The authorities shall indicate the protective measures to be taken through the Media, Information Centers and the Centers for Affiliation and Registration.

Try to answer calls for help and collaborate with the intervening, but not go to the affected areas without request to the authorities. It is important not poke around the affected areas, this is dangerous as well hamper the work of rehabilitation.

[kevin2003]

" The Islanders were being treated like mushrooms...kept in the dark and fed a load of BS until they stood up for themselves and demanded their right to proper information."

[kevin2003]

"HAPPY DAY" in El Hierro......

[fifi]

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[jand]

www.laprovincia.es