El Hierro

[jand]

This is another interesting site to keep an eye on things happening they are discussing the latest earthquakes and their position that happened this morning


https://www.facebook.com/pages/Actualidad-Volc%C3%A1nica-de-Canarias-AVCAN/163883668446

[jand]

this chart shows absolutely nothing happening on
La Palma (no EQ activity whatsoever), no heart beat,
no breathing. nothing. this can only mean that
the instruments are dead and they are not collecting
data on La Palma... or, they are not releasing information
to the public?

 [link to www.01.ign.es]

The charts for La Palma have been like this for the past couple of days.

[little legs]

or it could mean there is bloody all to worry about

[fifi]

There are some beautiful historical photos on this website of the Canary Islands.http://www.miguelbravo.com/VARIOSTEMAS/volcanes%20canarias/canariasvolcanes.htm

Missing information has been discussed on the AVCAN facebook site allright Jand and also a problem with some of the equipment.

[jand]

What seems strange though is that with all the problems in El Hierro at the moment dont you think that this would be priority to get this fixed at La Palma.

Those comments were not my own there were someone elses opinion I copied and pasted them.

Infact I think the graphs for La Palma have been off line for nearly a week not days.

[fifi]

Things happen at a slower pace in Spain....look how long it is taking for them to organise the boat.[]

[jand]

Other peoples opinion about the seismic graphs not working in La Palma.


Agree! Nothing since the 16th. It seems that it would be a priority to get it working if broken. I wonder if taken offline on purpose now since down for 4 days.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2229485

how could those fools, morons and idiots possibly leave
themselves open to such criticism, when they know
damn well how sensitive all of the people in the
east coast of the U.S. are about La Palma right now.

the people of America demand to know all the information
there is to know about the situation in La Palma!

in fact! the UN should take over the island of La Palma
right now and send in a team of internationally renowned
geologists to set up all of the appropriate monitoring
devices, and Spain be damned!

[fifi]

I guess they have got their Islands mixed up. Someone should tell them that the eruptions are in El Hierro.

[jand]

I am sure they are well aware that the problem is on El Hierro as its been in the US Newspapers you have missed the point the fact is they are discussing why the seismic graphs are not working on La Plama and why they have not been fixed by now and they are  worried IF El Hierro has a huge erruption it may cause the landslide in La Palma that has been discussed many times MAY cause the Tsunami.

[butchbuildersinc]

ok guys
question to all you boffs.
is it safe to go to fuerty or are we likely to be in any danger?
only just read this
pete

[kevin2003]

Safe as houses mate.[]

[PHo]

It would help bring a sense of perspective to this discussion if you were to identify the sources of your quotes, rather than cut and paste them, jand. Anonymous Coward 2229485 for example posts on a godlikeproductions.com forum that seems to be full of nutcases.

[n/a]

quote:Originally posted by butchbuildersinc

ok guys
question to all you boffs.
is it safe to go to fuerty or are we likely to be in any danger?
only just read this
pete

There are no boffs on here, only speculators and web watchers posting everything and anything they can find, some of it factual and some merely alarmists. Bit like reading the Sun or the Daily Tarts. Still, it's a free world and there's some nice pics to use for screen savers. [] Love you all. XX

[little legs]

its better than reading the beano this thread

[kevin2003]

quote:Originally posted by little legs

its better than reading the beano this thread

I used to love The Bash Street Kids.[]

[PHo]

Paul1957
It is perfectly safe in Fuerte. the eruption in El Hierro is small, under the sea, 240kms away and quietening down. There is no way it will have any effect on our island. Ignore the conspiracy theorists and enjoy your trip.

[n/a]

quote:Originally posted by PHo

Paul1957
It is perfectly safe in Fuerte. the eruption in El Hierro is small, under the sea, 240kms away and quietening down. There is no way it will have any effect on our island. Ignore the conspiracy theorists and enjoy your trip.

Hi PHo. Thanks for thinking of me but I actually live on Fuerte and so am on holiday 365 days of each glorious year (unless you've planned a little surprise for me!!!![]) We're all going to the zoo tomorrow, zoo tomorrow......

PS It's 262 mls from me. My only hope is the noise of the explosion will drown out the sound of my dear wife farting. The smell won't be much different though! [}:)][][)]

[jand]

PHO its funny then that the link I posted from this site earlier this morning from the newspaper  El Mundo was taken from the same site and no they are not all crackpots on this site there are some sensible people with a genuine concern discussing on this site whats happening on El Hierro at the moment and keeping up to date with things.

[jand]

Its not getting any quieter on El Hierro   I suggest you visit the ign site to see how many earthquakes there have been today since midnight.

This is posting facts and not alarmist make believe.

http://www.01.ign.es/ign/layoutIn/volcaListadoTerremotos.do?zona=2&cantidad_dias=10

[n/a]

Wish the fish would bite as quick as you do jand. Wouldn't have to spend so many hours watching my float going nowhere. Still, could always go to Hierro and scoop up a few ready cooked ones. Hmmm... Tasty!

[TripleH]

I've just returned home and spoke to a few locals there and they all suggest there is nothing to worry about. If you do read this thread just skip jand's posts or she will have you sleepless for your holiday

quote:Originally posted by butchbuildersinc

ok guys
question to all you boffs.
is it safe to go to fuerty or are we likely to be in any danger?
only just read this
pete

[fifi]

This type of underwater eruption can cause a Tsunami but one of the Volcanologists has said that it shouldnt happen this time because of the depth of the eruption. Other than that, just a slight risk that there might be an ash cloud which could possibly affect flights on the Islands if it moves on a stage. They are doing an assessment of that at the moment.


"The type of eruption, as confirmed, is SURTSEYANA formed by four major phases.
The SURTSEYANA are eruptions under the sea where the water comes in contact with the lava and creates a geyser of lava and rocks that can form an island and cause tsunamis. The name given to this type of volcanic eruption from Monte Surtsey, 1963, Iceland.

But sources IGN CSIC and UNIVERSOCANARIO.COM ally refined the culmination of these depend on the amount of magma expelled by the volcano." (Translated article posted 17th October)

At the moment the eruption is only at stage one, it may stop for a long time or move on to the other stages and may even create a new Canary Island so its interesting to follow to see what happens.[]

[caletillas]

quote:Originally posted by jand

I am sure they are well aware that the problem is on El Hierro as its been in the US Newspapers you have missed the point the fact is they are discussing why the seismic graphs are not working on La Plama and why they have not been fixed by now and they are  worried IF El Hierro has a huge erruption it may cause the landslide in La Palma that has been discussed many times MAY cause the Tsunami.

There is absolutely no way that an eruption on El Hierro - even a big one on the island rather than under the sea- could directly trigger a landslide on La Palma. Physically impossible [8D]

[caletillas]

quote:Originally posted by fifi

]This type of underwater eruption can cause a Tsunami but one of the Volcanologists has said that it shouldnt happen this time because of the depth of the eruption. Other than that, just a slight risk that there might be an ash cloud which could possibly affect flights on the Islands if it moves on a stage.

Thank you Fi ... that's the most sensible thing anyone has written on this post for a while. As long as the vents stay where they are, offshore and quite deep, all will be well.

When this sort of Surtseyan eruption happens in shallow water then there can indeed be a (local) tsunami risk and an ash cloud can also become an issue but at the moment there is no risk from Hierro to anyone in Fuerte so everyone .. resident and visitor alike .. can rest easy.

[fifi]

....and enjoy the sunshine.[8D]

[jand]

Elpais.com

Después de tantos vaivenes, los científicos que gestionan la crisis también se han instalado en la prudencia. Inicialmente citaban que la probabilidad de erupción era menor de un 15%, pero los acontecimientos desbarataron ese y otros pronósticos. "No voy a hablar de probabilidades", dijo Carmen López, experta del Instituto Geográfico Nacional (IGN) el día que se desalojó La Restinga. La última comparecencia de María José Blanco, directora del organismo, también fue de extrema cautela: "Los volcanes no tienen un comportamiento constante. Hay diversas teorías y no tienen mayor veracidad unas que otras". Ya no hay titulares contundentes.

Translated

After so many ups and downs, scientists that manage the crisis have also settled in prudence. Initially they cited that the likelihood of eruption was less than 15%, but the events derailed this and other forecasts. "I will not talk of probabilities", said Carmen Lopez, expert of the National Geographic Institute (IGN) the day that evicted La Restinga. The last appearance of María José Blanco, Director of the Agency, was also of extreme caution: "volcanoes have no constant behaviour." "There are various theories and not they have greater accuracy than others". There is no compelling headlines.

In a nutshell I think itsays that none of us know or can say  whats going to happen.

[caletillas]

No, we don't, but we know what's LIKELY to happen.

And anyway, anyone seen the news that Mount Tambora is now showing signs of life? That's the volcano responsible for the biggest eruption in the last two thousand years (in 1815) and, although it's in Indonesia, it caused 3 years of global climatic chaos including heavy snow in England in the June of 1816, the 'year without a Summer', crop failure, famine, epidemic etc etc. Now there's something to really worry about.

[kevin2003]

quote:Originally posted by caletillas

No, we don't, but we know what's LIKELY to happen.

And anyway, anyone seen the news that Mount Tambora is now showing signs of life? That's the volcano responsible for the biggest eruption in the last two thousand years (in 1815) and, although it's in Indonesia, it caused 3 years of global climatic chaos including heavy snow in England in the June of 1816, the 'year without a Summer', crop failure, famine, epidemic etc etc. Now there's something to really worry about.

Ah shure we could all be dead in da mornin'.[]

[caletillas]

quote:Originally posted by kevin2003

quote:Originally posted by caletillas

No, we don't, but we know what's LIKELY to happen.

And anyway, anyone seen the news that Mount Tambora is now showing signs of life? That's the volcano responsible for the biggest eruption in the last two thousand years (in 1815) and, although it's in Indonesia, it caused 3 years of global climatic chaos including heavy snow in England in the June of 1816, the 'year without a Summer', crop failure, famine, epidemic etc etc. Now there's something to really worry about.

[][][]

Ah shure we could all be dead in da mornin'.[]

[fifi]

quote:Originally posted by caletillas

No, we don't, but we know what's LIKELY to happen.

And anyway, anyone seen the news that Mount Tambora is now showing signs of life? That's the volcano responsible for the biggest eruption in the last two thousand years (in 1815) and, although it's in Indonesia, it caused 3 years of global climatic chaos including heavy snow in England in the June of 1816, the 'year without a Summer', crop failure, famine, epidemic etc etc. Now there's something to really worry about.

I think I might follow that one too Cal.[] Hows Iceland?[]