El Hierro

[jand]

http://www.ign.es/ign/head/volcaSenalesAnterioresDia.do?nombreFichero=CHIE_2011-11-23&estacion=CHIE&Anio=2011&Mes=11&Dia=23

http://www.ign.es/ign/head/volcaSenalesDiasAnterioresHora.do?nombreFichero=CHIE_2011-11-23_07-08&estacion=CHIE&Anio=2011&Mes=11&Dia=23&tipo=2&hora=07-08

Harmonics seem to be picking up a little again looks like something jolted the graph at around 0715 this morning.

[jand]

Someone who lives in France comments on the sea ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3Bx-98EkFY

[jand]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmuPvwtp_nI&feature=share

Fifi this link is from Mary Creerly I think you have posted about her comments before this is definately food for thought !!

[jand]

Copied from Avcan
all eyes were diriguen to the North by the earthquakes, but we must not lose sight of the volcano in the South, the tremor continues to fall and is still in activity.

The reading of the descent of the tremor and as I mentioned this morning, is that either well the system is losing pressure or is this cleared the way and get best lava to combine the edges that cause the tremor.

The case is that option in which volcanic system of the South continue losing pressure, seeing that the tremor begins to have explosions, and if continues on this path, or that there is a fortuitous entry of water into the system us we could find something that no one expects that between water at the volcanic system, and then we will take the surprise of a possible reactivation in every rule to interact with magma water in the ducts. In fact I think that already happened once, when the tremor put to explosions and left these clear grey spots and fine material in the water.

This possibility commented, above all by how close is the current eruption of the town of la Restinga and because I am concerned one thing the possibility of opening up another mouth close or very close to the same or in the same and this must be taken into account, as the magma flows below the town, so that if the time, that no one be surprised if this happens.

If you happen that would be tremendous for the town and the people of la Restinga, because if for example the case which opened in the own port or with one of the breakwaters would be explosions hidromagmaticas of several hundred metres in height.

We will see that it happens at the end, nature has the last word, and although the pre-eruptiva activity of North portends something in that area, there is no remove your eye to the activities of the South of the volcano of the la Restinga. (Henry).

[fifi]

quote:Originally posted by jand

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmuPvwtp_nI&feature=share

Fifi this link is from Mary Creerly I think you have posted about her comments before this is definately food for thought !!

It is true about the IGN not reporting smaller earthquakes jand but they do state on their website that they only report over 1.5 on the Richter scale. AVCAN report the smaller ones.

The fissure or vent in the El Golfo area was reported on 1st and 3rd November so the only mysterious thing about that is the fact that there was never any mention of it since.

I agree about other things being covered up. La Palmas seismic station was turned back on when there were a large group of people arriving for a 40th anniversary  volcano conference, after being switched off for a long time. IGN also tried to fool everyone by saying the deformation reading from H103 would be good enough to assess the situation when H104 (The actual area with the main problem) was switched off. They were severely rapped on the knuckles over that one. The authorities have admitted now that they are not releasing information so as to not alarm the population and PEVLOCA only give information at the last possible moment.

           ...........

Researchers placed the new Involcan gas discharge at 200 meters east of the main zone of gas emissions and volcanic materials according to the coordinates given from the helicopter. However, IGN claimed yesterday, as on other occasions, that the coordinates from the air are "a mistake." They have therefore placed buoys at sea and have been instrumented ground reference points to triangulate the area of the rash.( Canarias 7)http://www.canarias7.es/articulo.cfm?Id=239596

[pennylane]

Florence, the point I was making was:
We can choose whether to click on this thread or not....
We can all look up El Hierro too on Google if we are interested.
Not all the info on the Internet is accurate either !
Fi and Jand have exposed info re the Government keeping real facts
from the resident too, which is interesting.
If this thread annoys people, I'm just suggesting that there are
plenty of other threads on the fouum that might interest them.....

Many of the dross threads dont get the stick that this one has !

We can choose to click on any thread so if people dont like this thread
just dont click on it.............

I'll read lots of thread and sift through them to find interesting info
some of the posts might irritate me but unless someone is having a go at
ME in particular, I just read the thread and leave it if I am not interested
in it......

Some people have a compulsion to read threads even when they do not interest them,
look at the threads FAO any one particulat member
............................hundreds will click on it, just to be nosey
it's the nature of the beast.............
people keep clicking on this thread even they dont agree with it or
dislike the way the info is posted !!!!!!

Forum members should just not open the thread if it irritates them so much

[SurfJames]

Well said Pennylane....very clearly put.
Not sure on the motives of some derampers - but I guess it's an attraction of opposites
like most things in life.

Just a quick update:

Data update 23/11 – 10:57
 - Joke is currently moving to a wifi cafe in La Restinga to send us the first stain pictures of the day.
The coloring as seen on the webcam this morning will be probably very beautiful from
Montaña Naos (Naos Mountain viewpoint). Ian does not want to miss one second from the
beautiful activity and continues to make images from the Naos mountain viewpoint.
 - Joke has to move her belongings to another house but she is so excited about what is happening
that she decided to cover today's events first.

Data update 23/11 – 10:11
 - Joke has just reported that what they see from the mountain is quiet spectacular.
She met Ian Carson a little while ago and both are shooting pictures of the activity,
 which we will publish when they have the opportunity to upload them.

[SurfJames]

jand....brilliant discussion post about the north of the island.

I hadn't appreciate that there was so much concern with respect to that area,
and thought all eyes were really on the south.

I also hadn't appreciated the importance of lack of pressure and inflow
of sea water into those vents. The water will boil and need to escape
with spectacular consequences.

It's easy to think that those underwater erruptions are more contained
than if on land, but the opposite is possibly true.

Surtsey started with a jacuzzi 400metres across. This one is 240m !

[SurfJames]

That stain is massive today! Clearly seen even though the sea is so rough.

And clearly multiple vents now.   [][8D]

Also, with that sea running so fast, the actual vents must be well to the left of the stain, not directly below it, because debris will be carried before reaching the surface.

[Cameron]

What do you mean don't open the thread if it irritates us? We ENJOY being irritated. Threads like this are a lifeline to the depressed. Read this and you get the satisfaction that however mundane you are however boring your life is and however much time wieghs heavily on your shoulders.... theres always some that are worse off.[]

[SurfJames]

Cameron....you're a very very naughty boy!  []

Report to the Headmasters office immediately for a good spanking. [:p][8D]

[fifi]

Raymond Matabosch is describing the three eruptive vents in his journal. One of the vents is only metres away from the Port and  all three are very active and  producing dark volcanic material. His question is will Pevloca be able to evacuate La Restinga quick enough if necessary. See journal for photos.  http://www.come4news.com/l-le-volcan-el-hierro-apparition-imminente-du-panache-cyprissoide-672818

                           ............

New vents are opening now according to Earthquake report. Video of one of them opening can be seen here.http://earthquake-report.com/2011/09/25/el-hierro-canary-islands-spain-volcanic-risk-alert-increased-to-yellow/

[pennylane]

the web cams looking interesting today

http://earthquake-report.com/2011/11/12/32535/

[Florence]

quote:Originally posted by pennylane

Florence, the point I was making was:
We can choose whether to click on this thread or not....
We can all look up El Hierro too on Google if we are interested.
Not all the info on the Internet is accurate either !
Fi and Jand have exposed info re the Government keeping real facts
from the resident too, which is interesting.
If this thread annoys people, I'm just suggesting that there are
plenty of other threads on the fouum that might interest them.....

Many of the dross threads dont get the stick that this one has !

We can choose to click on any thread so if people dont like this thread
just dont click on it.............

I'll read lots of thread and sift through them to find interesting info
some of the posts might irritate me but unless someone is having a go at
ME in particular, I just read the thread and leave it if I am not interested
in it......

Some people have a compulsion to read threads even when they do not interest them,
look at the threads FAO any one particulat member
............................hundreds will click on it, just to be nosey
it's the nature of the beast.............
people keep clicking on this thread even they dont agree with it or
dislike the way the info is posted !!!!!!

Forum members should just not open the thread if it irritates them so much

You are allowed a point of view.  I think you will agree that everybody is allowed a point a view - even me.
Anyway, I like Fifi's posts and she has a life away from the computer, which is a good thing.

[pennylane]

James look at the cam isn't the stain spreading really wide

glen

[pennylane]

I agree Florence and I respect your views.

And Fi Fi has contributed so much to this forum and just in the last
3 years I haved learnt so much from Fi and many regs so I enjoy this thread
and of course people have their opinions but some people get quite personal
and some comments are un called for

Glen x

[SurfJames]

Hi Glen,

Massive staining and so close to the port entrance now.

Florence....Trying to get fifi on board to divide and rule?

Naughty naughty girl....report to the Headmaster's office with Cameron.....[][][][8D]

(Ps  I've no truck with you and infact think you're cool[])

[pennylane]

Hi James I've just stopped for my lunch and I'm glued
to the web cam..like you said its so close to the harbour now
Ive never seen the stain so big...I cant stop wondering
what the residents are thinking etc
Glen x

[fifi]

Loving the colours on camera 2.[] You can see the stain growing before your eyes. Fantastic. There should be some nice photos later hopefully because the helicopter flew over a while ago.[]



Large rock on the way out.

[pennylane]

Hi Fi, I was just about to say it would be interesting
to see this from the air....
hope you are well hun xx
Glen x

[pennylane]

The helicopter still seems to be up there now Fi x

[pennylane]

okey dokey x Fi I was going to suggest that you and Jand etc set a facebook page, so we can follow events on there ?

[pennylane]

BOAT crossing the harbour too now..?

[SurfJames]

She's gonna blow Captain.

Watch out for the clingons.

[fifi]

I dont mind following it on FB if anyone else wants to? I missed the boat while I was messaging you on FB.

[pennylane]

I wish there was a cam with a wider angle so you could see the spread better

[fifi]

quote:Originally posted by SurfJames

She's gonna blow Captain.

Watch out for the clingons.

[][][]

[TripleH]

Pennylane, the reason why some of us are "derampers", whatever they are, is because there are so many pasted comments on here from people on other forums and no one really knows if they are true. I know there are also lots of good facts here. BUt the scaremongering on here and obsession from certain individual/s does frighten people. My holiday had a damper put on it so did Digsleys and just to remind you, go back to your post of 13th October.

Quote "We're out on Monday night for 7 days. I've spoken to many people, residents and tourists and everyone's saying..don't worry and go on Monday..Easyjet said flights ok up to now....Did some googling and tried to follow nthe info but it's all above my head so I'm just trying to get residents to say if they are worried ? I made the mistake of leaving the screen on with the graph and info re the activity and our Steph saw it and now she is worried sick.........not worried that we might not be able to fly back because that would be her dream..but she is worried that Fuerte might go under !!! tried to calm her down and I've played the whole thing down but......I'm still worried .....we will come but it's put a damper on things ....
Glen x"

[pennylane]

Is it the wind shaking the web cam or other activitiy ?

[fifi]

I think its the wind.