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Ryanair to make parents pay for reserved seats

Started by paully, July 28, 2016, 21:51:36 PM

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paully

Whilst strictly speaking this should be in the flight information, I thought it would be more to the point on chat...anyway here is the full story so far:  http://news.sky.com/story/ryanair-to-make-parents-pay-for-reserved-seats-10515647

  For once I find myself in agreement with them. Its called leadership and taking charge of what is becoming a fraught and all too regular scenario. Quite properly, there is no charge being levied for the kids seats, only the adults. That will spike the cheapskates who try to save a couple of bob and then  don`t give a monkey`s who they inconvenience, while the poor crew have to move folk about to sort out Chantelle and Tyrone, and still try to maintain the slot time. Well done O`Leary  ;D
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zedzedeleven

Yes and about time too. I have experienced this at first hand, and I refused flat out to move. I saw that the father chose not to take a seat on boarding and stood blocking the isle as his wife tried to seat the children, it wasn`t possible to find a row of free seats to accommodate them all. The flight attendants then asked for volunteers to move, no one volunteered. Then father kicked off , quoting the rules about not seating children next to adults they didn`t know. Finally some of the passengers moved and it got sorted but I just thought it was an appalling thing to do just to save a few quid.
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peggy

I totally agree with the above comments and it's about time. I too have been asked to move and flatly refused. I paid for the seats for us to sit together unlike the tightwads.   ;)

Blueboy7

Good move, I've been on at least three flights were this type of situation has caused problems

ashworth

I think they should go the whole way and ban kids from flights. How good would that be no kids on a Ryanair flight. They should go on a train to Blackpool for there hols like we did.

Johnrgby2

Nice idea, it will never happen of course as the great unwashed are Ryan Airs main customers.

el caballo hambriento

I am totally with Ryanair on this one.  I get fed up with being asked to move in order to accommodate those who are too mean to pay a few extra quid for a seat.  This extra can't be much compared to the total cost of a holiday.

IsThisForumStillGoingWow

Quote from: Johnrgby2 on July 30, 2016, 10:13:27 AM
Nice idea, it will never happen of course as the great unwashed are Ryan Airs main customers.

It seems the posters who replied in this thread are 'the great unwashed' who fly RA...as am I..as the flight times are good from Stansted and the prices are good too.. I take it you charter a flight or get Virgin maybe to divert and drop you off at Fue ... what a snobby reply. It means I can afford to fly to Fue 5 or 6 times a year to see my grandson...flying with the other 'great unwashed' with RA.
Only two things are infinite,the universe and human stupidity,and im not sure about the former .....

Globetrotter

Quote from: hev on July 30, 2016, 21:56:34 PM
Quote from: Johnrgby2 on July 30, 2016, 10:13:27 AM
Nice idea, it will never happen of course as the great unwashed are Ryan Airs main customers.

It seems the posters who replied in this thread are 'the great unwashed' who fly RA...as am I..as the flight times are good from Stansted and the prices are good too.. I take it you charter a flight or get Virgin maybe to divert and drop you off at Fue ... what a snobby reply. It means I can afford to fly to Fue 5 or 6 times a year to see my grandson...flying with the other 'great unwashed' with RA.
Wholeheartedly agree Hev, we always travel with RA, not much other choice really so us too fall within the category of the great unwashed, it was worded without much thought to the thousands of other decent folk who choose RA mainly as you say it enables us to fly more frequently, and not everybody who travels with children have an unlimited supply of cash to spend on other airlines so too choose RA as their transport.
Yes totally agree with RA on their new policy we have also witnessed the same scenario of families waiting to be seated together whilst the crew try to persuade fellow passengers to give up their prepaid seats, we also will not move on principle ie if we had wanted to be allocated a seat anywhere we could have chosen to not pay.
A classic example was last year a lady was adamant that she had to have her son and daughter sat with her because they needed constant medication during the 4 hour flight, after a lot of pleading a couple who had paid for front seats agreed to move mainly as they felt sorry for the kids, not once did the mother administer any medication to either of them in fact they all sat troughing on crisps, snacks, fizzy drinks etc, rant over  ;D ;D

Johnrgby2

Quote from: Globetrotter on July 31, 2016, 02:00:30 AM
Quote from: hev on July 30, 2016, 21:56:34 PM
Quote from: Johnrgby2 on July 30, 2016, 10:13:27 AM
Nice idea, it will never happen of course as the great unwashed are Ryan Airs main customers.

It seems the posters who replied in this thread are 'the great unwashed' who fly RA...as am I..as the flight times are good from Stansted and the prices are good too.. I take it you charter a flight or get Virgin maybe to divert and drop you off at Fue ... what a snobby reply. It means I can afford to fly to Fue 5 or 6 times a year to see my grandson...flying with the other 'great unwashed' with RA.
Wholeheartedly agree Hev, we always travel with RA, not much other choice really so us too fall within the category of the great unwashed, it was worded without much thought to the thousands of other decent folk who choose RA mainly as you say it enables us to fly more frequently, and not everybody who travels with children have an unlimited supply of cash to spend on other airlines so too choose RA as their transport.
Yes totally agree with RA on their new policy we have also witnessed the same scenario of families waiting to be seated together whilst the crew try to persuade fellow passengers to give up their prepaid seats, we also will not move on principle ie if we had wanted to be allocated a seat anywhere we could have chosen to not pay.
A classic example was last year a lady was adamant that she had to have her son and daughter sat with her because they needed constant medication during the 4 hour flight, after a lot of pleading a couple who had paid for front seats agreed to move mainly as they felt sorry for the kids, not once did the mother administer any medication to either of them in fact they all sat troughing on crisps, snacks, fizzy drinks etc, rant over  ;D ;D

I did say MAIN customers, not all of their customers, I have traveled with Ryan Air once, but would not do again neither would I use Easy jet although in the past I did often, the remark was not meant to insult anyone just a generalization.

Will196

Quote from: ashworth on July 30, 2016, 07:28:40 AM
I think they should go the whole way and ban kids from flights. How good would that be no kids on a Ryanair flight. They should go on a train to Blackpool for there hols like we did.

It's not the  kids it's the families. I had a family behind me. About ten minutes into the flight I feel the seat being kicked. I assumed it was the child. Nope it was the father. The child was perfect.

On a different flight I had a window seat. Next to me was a large American. Every time something mildly interesting was outside the window he would lean over and drape himself over me. The first time it was surprising. The rest of the flight it was  :o

zedzedeleven

Quote John <I did say MAIN customers, not all of their customers, I have traveled with Ryan Air once, but would not do again neither would I use Easy jet although in the past I did often, the remark was not meant to insult anyone just a generalization.>
I think you are cutting off your nose to spite your face here John, FR is held in great esteem by many forumites on here, people who have recognised for themselves what an excellent airline it is and are not influenced by those that seem to think it is fashionable to be snobby about FR. My airline of choice for getting abroad anyway. You may have had a bad experience with them, just as you can with any airline. Give them another go.
Mentor to the boneheads.

Johnrgby2

Quote from: zedzedeleven on July 31, 2016, 10:31:55 AM
Quote John <I did say MAIN customers, not all of their customers, I have traveled with Ryan Air once, but would not do again neither would I use Easy jet although in the past I did often, the remark was not meant to insult anyone just a generalization.>
I think you are cutting off your nose to spite your face here John, FR is held in great esteem by many forumites on here, people who have recognised for themselves what an excellent airline it is and are not influenced by those that seem to think it is fashionable to be snobby about FR. My airline of choice for getting abroad anyway. You may have had a bad experience with them, just as you can with any airline. Give them another go.

I have to fly back to the UK alone in November, and to honest R/Air would be the bst option as I want to fly out Friday and back Sun/Mon, you never know I might give them a go, either way i will let the forum

zedzedeleven

Good man, keep to their rules and it will all be ok, I`m sure you won`t be disappointed.
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MalT

Happened on Friday to return flight to Birmingham, we paid for 4 seats with our grandkids, so very little sympathy for people who expect others to move for them. It's your children and you need to be proactive in ensuring their well being.

zedzedeleven

I sometimes wonder if some passengers are a bit behind the times? Maybe they think that the old stampede rules are still valid, force your way to the front and sit where you like, it hasn`t been like that for a while, the stampede can only begin once the passengers who have paid   to sit in a specific seat are boarded . The boarding queue is segregated to facilitate it. More`s the pity, I used to enjoy it !
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bedouin

Quote from: zedzedeleven on July 31, 2016, 12:13:58 PM
I sometimes wonder if some passengers are a bit behind the times? Maybe they think that the old stampede rules are still valid, force your way to the front and sit where you like, it hasn`t been like that for a while, the stampede can only begin once the passengers who have paid   to sit in a specific seat are boarded . The boarding queue is segregated to facilitate it. More`s the pity, I used to enjoy it !

I wonder if you're maybe behind the times too?  For some time now, Ryanair have allocated seat numbers to every passenger, to help prevent the stampede.  If you wish to pay extra, you can choose your own seat when booking, but if you don't pay, a seat number will be allocated to you on check-in.

zedzedeleven

Yes, I know that thank you, back in the day it wasn`t the case and it was first come first served. I think FR decided there was money to be made by charging for seat selection. There is also a bit of a problem with overhead locker space, if you sit in the departure lounge until the stampede is over then your seat will be available but the overhead locker will be crammed full of clothing, bags, duty free stuff etc. Your stuff will be taken off you and stowed down the other end of the plane.
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bedouin

We just travel with soft bags which go under the seat in front.  No problems being last on.

zedzedeleven

I always travel cabin baggage only and take a Cabin Max backpack, no hanging around the carousel or queueing at a check in desk.
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erik_tonny

It's the ZZ11's taking all the  overhead locker space  >:(

el caballo hambriento

Some people who travel on budget airlines expect to get 5 star treatment even if they have not paid for extras such as reserved seats.  They need to understand the term BUDGET airline.

Riverman

I never knew that this was a problem. Always fly with Monarch outside of school holidays. Don't pre-book seats yet always get to sit together and have even got extra leg-room seats for free.

zedzedeleven

Quote from: erik_tonny on July 31, 2016, 17:48:40 PM
It's the ZZ11's taking all the  overhead locker space  >:(
Cabin Max luggage bag dimensions universally agreed by all major airlines. It`s the coats, dutyfree, jumpers, carrier bags and all the rest of the detritus carried on by the terminally selfish.
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zedzedeleven

Quote from: Riverman on July 31, 2016, 19:50:52 PM
I never knew that this was a problem. Always fly with Monarch outside of school holidays. Don't pre-book seats yet always get to sit together and have even got extra leg-room seats for free.
It will come your way, sooner or later. Remember Freddie Laker`s Skytrain? That`s how it should be, buy a ticket and get on, why does it matter if you don`t get to sit next to `er indoors? it`s only four hours.
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fatherted

Quote from: zedzedeleven on July 31, 2016, 20:20:40 PM
Quote from: Riverman on July 31, 2016, 19:50:52 PM
I never knew that this was a problem. Always fly with Monarch outside of school holidays. Don't pre-book seats yet always get to sit together and have even got extra leg-room seats for free.
It will come your way, sooner or later. Remember Freddie Laker`s Skytrain? That`s how it should be, buy a ticket and get on, why does it matter if you don`t get to sit next to `er indoors? it`s only four hours.

Exactly. I'm looking forward to the 1st adult only airline providing it's not like some of Jet 2's flights ex Leeds/Bfd full of stag/hen do's pi**heads

Will196

They only have room for 90 carry on bags. If you're at the end of the line they put it in the hole.

paully

Quote from: fatherted on July 31, 2016, 23:59:04 PM


Exactly. I'm looking forward to the 1st adult only airline providing it's not like some of Jet 2's flights ex Leeds/Bfd full of stag/hen do's pi**heads


and golfers  :'(....in my experience they were worse than the stag do`s
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zedzedeleven

Perhaps Iv`e been lucky but Iv`e never encountered any problem drunks when Iv`e been flying to Fuerte. The worst one I saw was , of all things , an elderly lady who drank miniature brandy`s, two at a time. Then she was sick down her blouse and sick again on the floor while queueing for the toilet.
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falkirkdan

#29
Have encountered the child not sitting next to parent.   Last year the crew were trying to get folk to move so they could take off, as they would not if child was not sitting with a parent.   Turns out the lady had only booked flights couple of days before and was issued with seats but they were not together.  So in that case was RA problem.
Only drunk had next to me recently was again couple years ago.   He was sat next to me and smelt as if he was the whole of the great unwashed wrapped into one.  He then proceeded to pull cans of beer from his bag below his seat and slugged out of them.   Where would he have got these, surely not in the airport  he must had about ten.   He would then take some to his other half down the plane.