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Started by Descarol123, November 07, 2013, 11:58:38 AM

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Descarol123

RIP
Hi guys was out for a walk this morning on way to the Atlantico centre and loads of police searching the waste ground and what looks like a crime scene set up next to the housing estate ( sorry don't know the name ) my wife a nosy cow and wants to know what's going on

woe10

Saw them yesterday. They're next to the German Bunker by Beach Villas. Probably had some Junkies living in it, or they lost somebody's Speeding Ticket.

fifi

There was a 65 year old man murdered according to Canarias7. I think I know the man in question. Dreadful news.

Here is the report translated  by google from Canarias7

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Secrecy surrounding the indigent dead in Antigua for being a suspected homicide

homicide death investigation

The homeless man found dead in the town of Antigua, Fuerteventura , was the victim of a violent death whose circumstances are attempts to clarify with an investigation declared secret by the court to suspect a homicide , confirmed Thursday Efe Civil Guard .

Civil Guard agents conducted investigations surrounding the death of this man, about 65 years old and known as " The Salmantino " in the tourist area of ​​Caleta de Fuste , where used as a shelter to sleep an old abandoned pillbox where his body was found yesterday with head trauma and bleeding , sources of 112.

His body was discovered in the early afternoon for a couple of foreigners who alerted the local police presence in that place , located near the sports complex Arenas Sport Center, of a man lying on the ground, without knowledge and incised wound on the scalp , they said Efe from the 112, the Emergency Coordination Center and regional Security .

Emergency Service Personnel Canario who was sent to the area in an ambulance could only confirm that the homeless man had died already, so that Civil Guard officers mobilized to the incident also took charge of guarding the body until the arrival of the judicial authority.

The Guardia Civil has also initiated an investigation to try to clarify the circumstances in which the death occurred and its possible author or possible authors , because it is a violent death was suspected of murder , as they have Efe confirmed from his headquarters in Las Palmas.

From the Civil Guard have indicated that so far there have been no arrests in connection with this incident and have said they can not provide more information because the judicial authority has decreed gag on this case .

As for the identity of the victim , Old City Hall sources told Efe that resided several years in Caleta de Fuste and it was a homeless man who helped throw the garbage to the tourist companies , where he known as " The Salmantino " .

Can the Man

Poor guy, no one deserves to die like that. R.I.P.

KWC

Shameful act on an old(er) man, who was probably suffering enough in his lifestyle/outlook.

RIP Sir

Paddster

That's awful........RIP

zedzedeleven

It might have been an organised bum fight. (Will fight for booze).
Mentor to the boneheads.

KWC

Quote from: zedzedeleven on November 07, 2013, 16:18:06 PM
It might have been an organised bum fight. (Will fight for booze).

A man was murdered and that's all you can say - sad  ::)

Can the Man

A bit of respect and a bit of dignity for the poor unfortunate -

'There for the grace of God go I'

SheilaW

Very sad. I hope they catch the culprit(s) soon. We don't want people capable of doing something like that on the streets of Fuerteventura.

appy ammer

Is that the chap who we used to see with his bike, no shirt or shoes ?
Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity

woodside

No Appy.  The little man (known locally as Javier, although I don't think this was his real name) who used to wander around central Caleta in his slippers... cig in one hand, beer in the other.  Not a bad bone in his body. Eager to help anyone in exchange for a beer or bit of cash... as soon as he had any cash he would have his hair cut, shave and turn up for a few days in clean, smart clothes!  Bless him!

fifi

#12
There was another homeless man that I was very friendly with. His name was Ubi Anderson. He was German or Dutch. He looked like Santa Claus and had long white hair and a long white beard. He spoke several languages fluently and became homeless because of night blindness when he could no longer get a license for the boat that he used to live on. We used to do the lottery together twice a week and he called me his lucky lady and always waited until I would arrive before buying the ticket and would write my name on it ....and we would then go back and see if he (we) had won. He disappeared suddenly around the time of the October fiesta in Caleta  two years ago and I always wondered if he was allright and what happened to him. I was really fond of him and used to enjoy our daily chats. He would be 78 or 79 now.

Does anyone know what happened to Ubi?


PS. I took my earlier post off which named Javier because I was not sure if it was right to be naming him on here. As Annette has said, he had some very nice qualities and was very kind to some of my friends. May he rest in peace.

appy ammer

The chap I am thinking about to coin a phrase looks like a concerntration camp victim, really thin,heavily tanned, I remember seeing him on the road to Antiqua/Pozo Negro once walking alongside his bike and his belongings, I think he also wore round glasses  I think he may be Dutch
Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity

fifi

I know who you mean Appy. I heard that he moved down South but I dont know if that is true or not.

Brightspark

Quote from: fifi on November 07, 2013, 20:10:12 PM
I know who you mean Appy. I heard that he moved down South but I dont know if that is true or not.

It's true, he moved down to Gran Tarajal, though when I spotted him that was about 2 years ago, can only guess where he is now.

TamaraEnLaPlaya

It's very sad, and ironic after yesterday's news:

"Figures released by the Interior Ministry show that crime has fallen more in the Canary Islands than the rest of the country in 2013. 
According to the Ministry, the overall number of crimes during the first nine months of the year is down 3.6% compared to the same period last year, with the fall noticeably greater in the case of violent crime (down 5.6%) and murder, which has fallen by over 16%. A total of 70,800 criminal offences were recorded for the islands during the 9-month period, 2500 fewer than for the period in 2012."

Harlequin

It would be interesting to find out what the crime figures are for Fuerteventura?

woe10

Just to quash the rumours that are are going around Caleta. He was NOT stabbed. Somebody said he was stabbed 7 times which is rediculous.

He had a Head trauma from a rock. At this stage it could have been from another person, why, I don't know as he had nothing to steal, or it could have been from a fall from the Bunker where he was Dossing. Let's wait until the autopsy before jumping to conclusions that there is a mad Murderer loose in Caleta.

isleswing

We really could do with a new title for this thread.

'Cops' doesn't now describe the subject and isn't really respectful to the poor chap.

fifi

Quote from: TamaraEnLaPlaya on November 07, 2013, 23:42:41 PM
It's very sad, and ironic after yesterday's news:

"Figures released by the Interior Ministry show that crime has fallen more in the Canary Islands than the rest of the country in 2013. 
According to the Ministry, the overall number of crimes during the first nine months of the year is down 3.6% compared to the same period last year, with the fall noticeably greater in the case of violent crime (down 5.6%) and murder, which has fallen by over 16%. A total of 70,800 criminal offences were recorded for the islands during the 9-month period, 2500 fewer than for the period in 2012."


Drug trafficking and stealing are on the increase though. Translated from La Provincia.http://www.laprovincia.es/sucesos/2013/11/06/homicidios-descienden-50-enero-septiembre/569244.html?utm_source=rss


Murders fell by 50 % between January and September in Las Palmas
a. c . d. 11/06/2013 | 2:10

The province of Las Palmas registered during the first nine months of this year half of voluntary manslaughter and murder accomplished in that same time frame in 2012 . The Balance of Crime released yesterday by the Ministry of Interior shows that in the three eastern islands there has been a decline in all criminal sections except those related to drug trafficking , which increased by 6 % , and stealing a 4% more .


Between January and September 2013 in Gran Canaria , Fuerteventura and Lanzarote have been four homicides or murders , according to statistics from the Ministry of State Security , which states that the decline from the previous year , when there were eight is 50% . In contrast to these positive data , in Santa Cruz de Tenerife are negative records . If in 2012 there were four offenses of this kind , during the first nine months of this year there have been six , up 50% . In the whole Archipelago records are positive, with a drop of 16.7%.

Captain Sensible


fifi

Dreadful news Captain.

Online translation.

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The Civil Guard investigation in the vicinity of Francisco Sanchez Sanchez and already has a suspect

The murderer of Francisco Sanchez Sanchez, known as the Salmantino , 66, gave him a score of blows to the head with an iron. The Judicial Police of the Guardia Civil in the environment investigates the man who was brutally beaten in early Wednesday inside a machine gun nest in the tourist area of ​​Caleta de Fuste , in the municipality of Antigua.

Agents yesterday combed the area near the event in search of the murder weapon and other evidence leading to the identification of the author of the horrible crime . The investigation is under a gag order , but members of the judicial police already have a suspect holdings . Are pending only necessary tests that imputed . It's a matter of hours.

The Civil Guard inquiries are directed to another homeless man who was drinking on the night of the crime Salmantino . I have fully identified but are waiting to get a definitive test that could be known today.

The Caleta de Fuste neighbors continue appalled by the crime that ran like wildfire through this tourist area . The presence of 13 policemen for evidence and several police vehicles caught the attention of not only the residents but to the many tourists who enjoy their holidays , they even used their machines pictures to immortalize the moment .

The autopsy was held yesterday at the Funeral Cira Ruiz of Puerto del Rosario by legal experts which was attended by several members of the Judicial Police, some coming from Gran Canaria , who moved to the island with the captain Pizarro to collaborate with peers in research.

The Salmantino had spent many years living in Fuerteventura , where he had come to work in construction. His wife and children , one of whom is a member of the NPC, currently residing in Madrid. To his friends was a good person who never got into trouble . " He was very respectful , never was a problem ," he told this newspaper an entrepreneur.

F. V. B. I knew him well and was one of the last people who saw him alive. " We were playing guitar for several hours and then went home . Did not see more until I heard the news . Was a great person , do not understand how you could do that." He added that " three weeks ago someone attacked him and put a rope on the neck of which managed to escape with a stylus he always carried . Never told us who it was, only that it was someone new in town ."

L. H. ensures that you were close friends with Francisco Sanchez. " He said he was going to collect money from the insurance major traffic accident when he was run over . Many months was therefore entered. Was a good friend and I'm sorry he died " .

Home tragic

The shared Salmantino few years ago the machine gun nest with two companions called Henry and Johnny. Interestingly both died . Currently residing alone in that cabin , although on occasion they saw him enter with some people.

A few days ago someone broke into the machine gun nest and destroyed a windmill that was built with locks clothes. "He was a handyman for crafts ," said one of his friends .

woe10

Quote from: Captain Sensible on November 08, 2013, 12:02:14 PM
The latest news update:
http://www.rtvaguacabra.com/noticias/el_asesino_de_el_salmantino_lo_golpe_veinte_veces_en_la_cabeza_con_un_hierro.html

He was murdered.  He suffered 20 wounds to the head.
There is a suspect.

Thanks for confirming that .

For anybody that doesn't know, the "Machine Gun Nests" that the paper refers to, are the Stone Bunkers dotted around the Island, built in World War 2 by the Germans.

Brightspark

Was he also known as Javier? caught a glimpse of a post on Facebook last night but didn't pay much attention to it, nor can I remember who posted it so I could take another look :/

fifi


Jock719

A sad post indeed. I do get the impression that the gent concerned was well regarded in the town. I hope so, during my visits it seems to me that Caleta is a big village and that the less fortunate are looked after.

fossil

What a really sad end for him ,we saw him early this week can in hand walking round the white centre bothering nobody and just surviving!
I just hope the individuals who committed this dreadful act are caught and dealt with !
If there is a fund to donate to bury him with some dignity please put it on here if anyone knows.

ocart

A terrible crime  Poor man, R.I.P   As regards the pillbox/bunker, I was told they were built during the Spainish Civil war.  Seems a trivial issue compared to what happened in this particular one.

Captain Sensible

A man was arrested yesterday in Corralejo, after giving himself up.  He is the prime suspect.  He'll appear in court today.
http://www.rtvaguacabra.com/noticias