• Welcome to the oldest running Fuerteventura Forum.
 

El Hierro

Started by admin, October 12, 2011, 10:40:14 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

woe10

The above 2 posts are FALSE. woe10 didn´t write this. (note the full stop after woe10), and the jand. is false also. The names have been hi-jacked. Admin, please delete.

jand

I also confirm that the post by Jand. is FALSE and I did not write or post this.

Admin please delete.

jand

http://66270rosesetepines.over-blog.com/articles-blog.html

Latest blog by Raymond Matabosch translated.

Blog 66270_Des-rosa and of épines. over-blog.com eruption of iron every day: March 16, 2012. Friday, 16 March 2012 at 14 h 30 the eruption, as pointed out it yesterday and days before, obviously. Several points are incrits in water and demonstrations on the surface of explosions hidromagmáticas are increasingly more visible... In addition, the Explorer of the Atlantic is some distance from these points... is there any reason to do so at the point of approach too close? It is more, a webcam with a view to confirm... Friday, March 16, 2012 00 to 19 h there are rumors that the webcam "store plieraient" March 17... do would be a political act as it was the Declaration of PEVOLCA announces the end of the eruption under the calm sea water? Admittedly, the tourist season, in a few days, passing its peak in the Canary Islands and the curious press on the island of El Hierro... What risks to fear? The eruption of Las Calmas, is far from being bent and the top of several eruptive episodes, out of La Restinga, Puerto Naos and Pinar, maximum between - 50 and m - 70... Furthermore, the natives still feels explode and underground noises throughout the Northwest and Southeast crack, and some of them are forms of fumaroles in the cerro El Julan, account, every day... All these events in the afternoon on the surface, in various areas of the Mar de Las Calmas, between La Restinga and beyond, Pinar even gets close to the entrance of the port of La Restinga, noted the resumption of explosions hidromagmáticas... Webcams are valuable for those who cannot follow the eruption only through it and for me that points more consistent and eruptive located on the axis of this campaign: March 16, 2012 © Raymond Matabosch come 16 mar 2012 2 comments good night, Raymond, the new video of the expected:

steevo

I like reading this stuff a lot, but those translations are terrible. Are they done automatically using some internet tool? It's hard to understand what's actually going on when you read those reports. :(

Is the vent still at 80 metres from the surface?

jand

Steevo

On my HP Pavillion laptop Bing translator is preinstalled and thats what I use to translate from Spanish to English.

I will add the link that is relevant to all my posts so if anybody wants to they can translate themselves using their own translator.

jand

Avcan FB Comment

Note 481 AVCAN - earthquake activity - VOLCANIC - island of HIERRO - 17 March 2012-11: 00 pm peninsula - earthquake and volcanic activity continues moderate seismicity today in the Gulf in the border area, in the alignment NNE-SSW. Continuous between microsismicidad detected but not located in the spectrogram of the sensor of CHIE. Continues the signal of volcanic tremor in the eruptive area of la Restinga, with very low values can give almost by extingido, very close to its minimum level, but still there, today declining, though still with a tidal oscillation, which increases and decreases in cycles of 12 h. New earthquakes 1. Magnitude between 1.5 depths to 13.2km. The day before yesterday 0. Yesterday 0. Today is 1. In total van 12536 earthquakes located in El Hierro by IGN from 9: 00 a.m. of the day 19 July 2011 (Henry).

http://www.avcan.org/mapas/AVCAN2949.jpg?d=1331977432

EARTHQUAKES 17TH MAR. -Green clear (1)
EARTHQUAKES 16TH MAR. - (0)
EARTHQUAKES 15TH SEA. - (0)
EARTHQUAKES 14TH MAR. -Dark blue (4)
EARTHQUAKES 13TH MAR. -Pink (2)
EARTHQUAKES 12TH MAR. -Yellow (3)
EARTHQUAKES 11TH MAR. -Red (4)
EARTHQUAKES 10TH MAR. -Dark green (2)
EARTHQUAKES DAY 09 MAR. -Orange (3)
EARTHQUAKES DAY 08 MAR. -Blue clear (3)


On the map of the simicidad of recent days, today with a sismito in the zonade border, yesterday and antesdeayer nothing for nothing and day 14 with 4 earthquakes, had two earthquakes in the area of summits, in the Gulf and the sea of the las calmas, all of them in alignment NNE-SSW. Day 13 seismicity was on the Gulf marine zone and the zone of summits. Day 12 was in the area of summits in the Gulf and one in the southeast of the island, area that had no seismicity long. The fact is that the many of the recent sismitos are aligned NNE - SSW from the marine zone of the Gulf to the mar de las Calmas, passing by the area summits and the Julan. The day 10 March there was a sismito in the Gulf and one in the Julan to the S. On 9 March the activity was in the area of summits by the side of the Julan and below, as well as on 8 March for the same area, in the area of Valverde and the mar de las Calmas. (Henry)
4 hours ago · Like · 15

jand

There has been the strongest earthquake so far a 2.5mg at only 17km deep at 13:38 the details and map can beseen on the link below the epicentre looks to be in the area of the crater.

 http://www.02.ign.es/ign/layoutIn/volcaDetalleTerremotos.do


1133145  17/03/2012  13:38:34  27.6360  -18.0320 17 2.5  4   SW EL PINAR.IHI


jand

Another earthquake this time on the West of the Island.



1133170

17/03/2012   16:05:42   27.7485   -18.0504  26   1.7    4   W FRONTERA.IHI

jand


jand

http://sosoceanos.blogspot.com.es/2012/03/cientificos-de-la-ulpgc-comprueban-que.html

Translated by Bing.

Scientists from the University of Las Palmas de Gran Canaria, aboard the research vessel chartered by the University to conduct campaigns in the area of the calm sea (El Hierro), have been able to shoot through a submarine robot of buqueAtlantic the cone of the volcano underwater Explorer and it has been the first camera that sits in the cone of the volcano.


Scientists point out that there is no tremor on the surface of the water, but yes is can appreciate a "rain of incandescent stars" at the mouth of the volcano and volcanic focus continues active, where had taken samples of more than 60 degrees water temperature. In the area also have seen that the marine life has returned to appear in the vicinity of the volcano.


In the campaign, called GUAYOTA 2-ULPGC have participated researchers of the GEOVOL (Group of geology of volcanic terrain), Division of Robotics and computational Oceanography (IUSIANI - University Institute of intelligent systems and numerical applications in engineering) and delIOCAG (University Institute of Oceanography and Global change) - all of the ULPGC - and therein elInstituto Jaume Almera (CSIC) and Centro Oceanográfico de Canarias (IEO) collaborate.



The campaign unfolds aboard B/O Atlantic Explorer (QSTAR S.L.U.) for the study of the submarine volcano of iron and their Oceanographic affectation, as well as observing and filming of the volcanic cone.


The first results of the images that have been recorded are:


-For the first time have obtained images of the new submarine volcano emerged near La Restinga (El Hierro), on its Southwest flank and in area close to the crater (to 172 m)


-In both missions found that the main volcanic focus remains currently active


-Emerging from depths of about 120 m, shows the formation of hot jets convective which reach depths of about 40-60 m. At the start of Tuesday 13, the ROV entered one of them and made several uncontrolled turns, while its sensor of temperature increased sharply


-Also, projections about 40-50 m tall pyroclastic are generated from these same depths (i.e. the pyroclastic reach depths of 80-70 m), they quickly form (parabolic) ballistics trajectories and fall by gravity. Some of these pyroclastic appear to be large (type volcanic bombs)


-In the immersion of Wednesday 14 was filming the Southwest flank of the main Cone, making clear that has a steep slope and consists, essentially, of pyroclastic of large size, some of which are similar to the hollow volcanic bombs which reached the surface in the months of November and December


-Finally, in the vicinity of the flank, at a depth of approximately 170 m and under a rain of ashes, had unbanco of fish (amberjacks possibly) coexisting with the volcano. Also, confused with the ashes there is multitude of small organisms and longer, closer to the surface, jellyfish.


The University of Las Palmas de Gran Canaria chartered a ship to facilitate the conduct of scientific research in the sea of la Restinga (El Hierro), in the area where the submarine volcano.

woe10

Cheers Admin.    Somebody hi-jacked mine and jand´s names and put false posts on.

jand

And from me aswell thank you Admin for removing the hi-jacked posts.

Florence

quote:
Originally posted by steevo

I like reading this stuff a lot, but those translations are terrible. Are they done automatically using some internet tool? It's hard to understand what's actually going on when you read those reports. :(

Is the vent still at 80 metres from the surface?



Know what you mean. If it's a straight translate from Google or whatever, then what you get is gibberish, which is unreadable and meaningless.

If you take the time to put the text into clear and conscise English, perhaps with a little input from other sources (for accuracy) then you may be able to impart useful information.

I think if a job is worth doing, it should be done well.  Otherwise... what's the point?

jand

Avcan FB Comment Translated.

Note 482 AVCAN - earthquake activity - VOLCANIC - island of HIERRO - 18 March 2012-11: 00 pm peninsula - earthquake and volcanic activity continues to moderate, without seismicity today, but yesterday was remarkable with one deep (26.1km) in the Gulf in the border area, in the alignment NNE-SSW and another in the calm sea, felt in the area of El Pinar by the reports of the FB. Continuous between microsismicidad detected but not located in the spectrogram of the sensor of CHIE. Continues the signal of volcanic tremor in the eruptive area of la Restinga, with very low values can give almost by extingido, very close to its minimum level, but still there, today increasing, though still with a tidal oscillation, which increases and decreases in cycles of 12 h. New earthquakes 2. Earthquakes senses 1 (on FB) magnitude between 2.5 and 1.7 depths to 16.6 and 26.1km. The day before yesterday 0. Yesterday 3. Today will be 0. In total van 12538 earthquakes located in El Hierro by IGN from 9: 00 a.m. of the day 19 July 2011 (Henry).


http://www.avcan.org/mapas/AVCAN2950.jpg?d=1332062738

EARTHQUAKES 18TH MAR. - (0)
EARTHQUAKES 17TH MAR. -Green course (3)
EARTHQUAKES 16TH MAR. - (0)
EARTHQUAKES 15TH SEA. - (0)
EARTHQUAKES 14TH MAR. -Dark blue (4)
EARTHQUAKES 13TH MAR. -Pink (2)
EARTHQUAKES 12TH MAR. -Yellow (3)
EARTHQUAKES 11TH MAR. -Red (4)
EARTHQUAKES 10TH MAR. -Dark green (2)
EARTHQUAKES DAY 09 MAR. -Orange (3)
EARTHQUAKES DAY 08 MAR. -Blue clear (3)


On the map of the simicidad of recent days, today for the time being nothing, but yesterday there were two sismitos in the border area, one of them deep (26.1) the days 16 and 17 nothing of nothing and day 14 with 4 earthquakes were two earthquakes in the area of summits, in the Gulf and the sea of the las calmasall them in alignment NNE-SSW. Day 13 seismicity was on the Gulf marine zone and the zone of summits. Day 12 was in the area of summits in the Gulf and one in the southeast of the island, area that had no seismicity long. The fact is that the many of the recent sismitos are aligned NNE - SSW from the marine zone of the Gulf to the mar de las Calmas, passing by the area summits and the Julan. The day 10 March there was a sismito in the Gulf and one in the Julan to the S. On 9 March the activity was in the area of summits by the side of the Julan and below, as well as on 8 March for the same area, in the area of Valverde and the mar de las Calmas. (Henry)
about an hour ago · Like · 5

jand

earthquake-report.com.

The photos can be viewed on the above link.

VERY IMPORTANT Update 19/03 – 17:02 UTC
 - ER reader Roland (see comments) has given us the lead to a report of the University of Las Palmas de Gran Canaria showing the still erupting submarine El Hierro volcano at a depth of 70 meter (this is 18 meter less than the last published data from the IEO High Tech bathymetry equipment!). What nobody could accomplish so far, has been done by the quite simple ROV E-Wally on board of the SOS-Oceanos, Q-Star, Atlantic Explorer ship by the scientists of the Universidad de Las Palmas the Gran Canaria.
 - The images have been captured on March 14 as the date on the images reveal. The images are of course foggy as a lot of suspended material is polluting the water.
 - No doubt that Q-Star and the University has also some video footage that they will probably release later on (the pictures are probably screen captures of the video).

jand

OT earthquake-report.com

Earthquake overview : On 3/20/2012  at about 11:30h local time, an earthquake of magnitude 7.9 occurred in the highly populated region of Guerrero in Mexico. The earthquake happened 149km from Oaxaca.

jand

earthquake-report.com

Update 21/03 – 11:13 UTC
 - The eruption webcam shows again a stain at the right side of the image. It was a while ago since we have seen such a stain. Update 1 : Joke, who is looking at the Las Calmas Sea live, and not through a webcam, like we do, has just written that the coloring is probably the "on the island" very well known Fata Morgana. The phenomenon was described earlier on in these articles and happens mainly when a calm see. Update 2 : Joke just told me another scenario which she heard from the Captain of the Salvamar Adhara. The crew has noticed an oily area on the sea, not only the color but also the smell. What we see now (14:52) is colring of the see by the sun (fata morgana).


Update 21/03 – 10:13 UTC
 Alpidio Armas, the president of the El Hierro Cabildo has criticized the decisions taken by Manuel Santana, the vice-president of the Security and Emergency delegation (or rather the influence as decisions were taken in a board and not by a single person) to call Red alert over the island.
 Comment ER : after the events it is always easy to comment, but we do applaud the behavior of Mr. Santana as at first the earthquakes became on the edge of being damaging and secondly nobody could predict if the rift eruption would lead to an outbreak on land. The many  cinder cones close to La Restinga are reminders that an eruption was not necessarily going to happen in the Las Calmas Sea. We truly understand that 7 months of this misery are irritating the local people, but one could see it as a plus that El Hierro became part of the world map since the eruption happened. From now on, the volcano will also generate tourism.

jand


jand


jand

Avcan on their facebook page are confirming that the stain is clearly visible near the port entrance this morning.

New post for comments on WEBCAMS. Today the sea is calm and you can perfectly see the stain of white - blue - turquoise of the burbuejo, in the area from the mouth of the port (8: 30 h UTC)...(Henry).

jand

Avcan Facebook comment.

Note 488 AVCAN - earthquake activity - VOLCANIC - island of HIERRO - 24 March 2012-10: 15 pm peninsular - earthquake and volcanic activity continues today moderate, with a sismito in the Gulf in the border area and another to the southwest of the island in the mar de las Calmas. Continuous between microsismicidad detected but not located in the spectrogram of the sensor of CHIE. The signal of volcanic tremor continues in the eruptive area of la Restinga, with very low values can be almost by extingido, very close to its minimum level, but still there, today changes and starts to increase, though still with a tidal oscillation, which increases and decreases in cycles of 12 h. New earthquakes 2. Magnitude between 1.2 and 1.1. Depth to 9.9km. 1 Day before yesterday. Yesterday 0. Today van 2. In total van 12546 earthquakes located in El Hierro by IGN from 9: 00 a.m. of the day 19 July 2011 (Henry).

jand

There is a strong jaquzzi on the webcam now.

http://hierroendirecto.movistar.es/

jand

Avcan facebook comment.

Note 489 AVCAN - earthquake activity - VOLCANIC - island of HIERRO - 25 March 2012-11: 00 pm peninsula - earthquake and volcanic activity continues moderate, today at the moment anything, but yesterday afternoon there was a sismito in the area of summits and another in the mar de las Calmas. Continuous between microsismicidad detected but not located in the spectrogram of the sensor of CHIE. The signal of volcanic tremor continues in the eruptive area of la Restinga, with very low values can be almost by extingido, very close to its minimum level, but still there, today continues to increase, though still with a tidal oscillation, which increases and decreases in cycles of 12 h. New earthquakes 2. Magnitude between 1.1 and 1.8. Depth to 10.0 and 11.0km. The day before yesterday 0. Yesterday (4). Today will be 0. In total van 12548 earthquakes located in El Hierro by IGN from 9: 00 a.m. of the day 19 July 2011 (Henry).

jand

New earthquakes detected and localized yesterday and today by the IGN in the area of the island of El Hierro and vicinity since the last information note AVCAN


1134614 03/24/2012 10: 39: 40 27.7216 - 18.0405 11.0 1.1 mbLg SW border.IHI
1134675 03/24/2012 16: 56: 04 27.6319 - 18.0534 10.0 1.8 mbLg SW EL PINAR.IHI
49 minutes ago · Like · 2

jand

Picture of the stain taken this morning.



jand

Latest news from www.earthquake-report.com

Update 26/03 -16:21 UTC
 - Joke just returned from a conversation with the mayor of El Pinar. The mayor said that the Cabildo still has his web package (including webcams) operational at www.elhierroendirecto.com.
 He has NOT said that the broadcast will stop immediately. So, what we assume now is that Telefonica has stopped his servers and that the Cabildo will continue to capture the signal and broadcast it via the above website. Of course this would be perfect, but so far nobody has confirmed this (the Mayor is NOT the Cabildo and the text on the joint Telefonica / Cabildo website is not really hopeful, to say the least !)
 - The Tacoron beach is open again.  As IGN said that the area is emission free, the air is no longer controlled at the lower part of the beach. The water samples at Tacoron were good (both bathing water and drinking water).
 - All official instances are telling everybody that the eruption has stopped.  Everybody who sees the regular jacuzzi's the last couple of days has a hard time to believe that they are not seeing anything.   It may have been wiser from IGN, CAP and authorities to give some official explanation about what is going on with the degassing, eventual minimal lava outflow and the remaining HT signal.

Update 26/03 -10:21 UTC
 - Our readers are very irritated and surprised that the webcams are shutting down. One of the partners in the webcams was the local government of El Hierro.  This means Politics. Politics are mostly (not always) following the pressure of the population. So far, we were aware that the El Hierro population suffered under the volcano alerts and that they hated this volcano more and more. Especially the fallout from less vacationers in La Restinga was a blame  for the local economy. This is all understandable.  Instead of turning the volcano into a PLUS (which they tried to do from time to time), they are know acting totally OPPOSITE, by turning the world blind and telling people that, if they want to see the volcano, they should come to El Hierro.  Spending a lot of money to a tourist marketing company has NO sense if reality is omitted.
 - This morning Joke was sitting on the bus from El Pinar to La Restinga. She saw the jacuzzi in the sea from above and started taking some pictures from it. A co-passenger shouted at her that she had to stop chasing away people from the island, by taking all these pictures from the volcano. The eruption stopped he said and still you are taking photographs. There is nothing going on and still you make pictures. Do you really like us to suffer all further on.

jand

http://www.elhierro.es/index.php?function=contact

This is the web page of the goverment for El Hierro people are asking that as many persons as possible contact them to ask the webcams are reinstated.

Just click into the contact link on the right hand side and type your comments in the brackets.

jand

Apologies this comment is so long but this is the letter Armand from earthquake-report.com has sent to the Cabildo El Hierro today.

There are a lot of angry islanders today demanding to know whats going on and they want the webcams reinstated so they can see for themselves.

www.earthquake-report.com

Update 27/03 -16:16 UTC – Open letter to the Cabildo El Hierro


Dear Mr. Alpidio Armas, Mr. President,

The informative note of the Cabildo formalizing the intended closure of the webcams has not been received well by the thousands of daily readers at AVCAN, the many other Spanish websites and at Earthquake-Report.com  (see below).
 The main reason for closing down the webcams is "Financial", has been said! This was advised by the technological partner of the venture ! Who ? Telefonica or the company who delivered the webcams or both ! Be more precise please,  because this is a flagrant omission of the truth.
 We were very surprised that instead of putting up 1 or max. 2 webcams, the venture immediately installed 4 webcams (2 at La Restinga, 1 at El Golfo and 1 at the Los Roquillos tunnel). The last 2 had NOTHING to do with the eruption as there was only one vent open at the time.
 Cabildo : We hope that both technological companies have not charged you any money as this would be over the edge (see their cost further on) !   The cost of installing them and cleaning the lenses now and then could eventually be acceptable, but we hope that this was not the case.
 Telefonica / Movistar : a MILTI-BILLION Spanish company not wanting to invest a couple of euros into their national natural beauty. The operational cost is almost NIHIL as the webcam is operated via the internet !  Bandwidth can be considered FREE at Telefonica. Their Advertisement was watched 1.565.847 times, not bad, as even a Google advertisement would have cost an exponential sum to achieve the same publicity.
 Webcam partner : The webcams have a list price of max. 2.000 Euro's each. All 4 of them has been an investment of less than 8000 Euro's. The company who have delivered the webcams is a major technological company not alone in Spain but worldwide (sorry i have forgotten the name). Their Advertisement was watched 1.565.847 times, not bad, as even a Google advertisement would have cost an exponential sum to achieve the same publicity

Let us give some alternatives (as we want to look at this from the positive side) :
 Earthquake-Report.com and hopefully followers like AVCAN (they are hurt too – check their comments Facebook page)  and some commercial partners are willing to pay 50 % of the eruption webcam (it is used material now ). We will stream the signal towards the U-stream service (which was also used by the El Pinar /ACN Press webcam of the ULPGC and does cost ONLY 100 € per month).  We will find a good hearted person at El Hierro to clean the lenses. Thats it, nothing more or less !

To be honest, we were delighted when Telefonica and the Cabildo have started a truly good and professional service to give us a view on the emission spot. Now, we have a hard time in accepting a logic which almost nobody of our daily readers understand.
 So, once again, when the problem is financial, our proposal stands, or is there a hidden agenda behind the decision ?
 We still hope that you will reactivate the webcam and start re-broadcast of the "eruption webcam" signal (we only need the Eruption webcam, nothing else, narrowing the cost even further).
 A new island would be a gift of God and will attract tourism like never before. Let us be ready if the volcano reactivates suddenly. The cone is currently at such a depth (88 meter) that a paroxysm will lead to a Surtseyan eruption within hours. The proposed re-activation in your Informative Note will come almost certainly too late if HT suddenly restarts.

kind regards,

Armand Vervaeck, Founder SOS Earthquakes non-profit organization / Earthquake-Report.com
 PS : Our El Hierro pages have been consulted by 1.400.000 individual readers nearly 4 million times ! (statistics can be given to the Cabildo on simple request).
 PS2 : We are of course not alone being disillusioned about what is happening.  The following blogger has the same meaning than we have. He has a webcam operational via U-Stream.  This is what he wrote as a title : EXELENTISIMO CABILDO DE EL HIERRO, ESTO ES LO QUE CUESTA INSTALAR UNA WEBCAM, NOS HA COSTADO 10 MINUTOS Y "0#8243; DE COSTE.  translated : Dear Cabildo de El Hierro, this is what it takes to install the webcam on this page : not even 10 minutes and 0 cost !

jand

latest reports from earthquake-report.com

Update 28/03 – 14:38 UTC
 - Joke reports a visible stain this afternoon (just like yesterday).   The stain is formed by eruptive material. Degassing only is not able to create a stain ! In other words : the volcano is still erupting low quantities of lava. The current stains are probably the reason why we have no more earthquakes since a couple of days (stains were discovered since a couple of days now – the last listed earthquake happened on March 26 at 07:05 UTC (these remarks are non-scientific of course, although the data is). We would love to print science analysis here, but as nobody comments, we have to report on the relations we see ourselves.

Update 28/03 – 10:24 UTC
 - Unfortunately for all of us, no news yet from the Cabildo on our (webcam) proposal (we may mention that also another letter we send (very polite and positive) was never replied to).
 - The "island of thousand volcanoes" is putting the only active volcano since tens of years in the "lets pretend nothing is going on" basket.
 - Joke Volta will be our human webcam for a while again ! Thanks to Joke we have still El Hierro eyes (she has to write a book about her experiences when it is over)
 - Joke has been examining if the jacuzzi's have some link with the tides. During many days she looked into the tide tables and she has concluded that there is NO immediate link in between the jacuzzi and the tide. The tide difference is only a couple of meters of course, but trying to find a relation between what is visible and the natural elements is very valuable.
 - Today we had no earthquakes yet, but microseismicity is still present as well as a jacuzzi now and then. Joke's images below are the proof towards the people who are saying "it is all over" (actually the Cabildo is not saying this – they said the activity was not strong enough to legitimate the hight cost of  webcam operations

jand

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7M8hpoLzG0&feature=player_embedded

Video of the stain and activity today.

Joke has confirmed on earthquake-report.com that the stain appears to be bigger today.