El Hierro

[fifi]

I sent off an email to Mary Greely looking for links to the information contained in the video inorder to check the contents further. I asked her for her pay pal details so I could send a dollar in the hope of a response.[]

I wonder if she will reply?

[jand]

http://www.01.ign.es/ign/resources/volcanologia/html/deformacion.html

Latest deformation charts.

[fifi]

Oh dear.....I dont think Mary wants my dollar[]



show details 10:36 PM (6 minutes ago)

Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

    mary240qgreely@hotmail.com

[SurfJames]

I think they are measuring the radioactive gas radon fifi, which is produced from volcanos as a by-product of the decay of uranium. Radon is the gas causing problems in cornwall.

I too saw the articles about radioactive dumps. I would suggest that the dumping was miles away from the island and has no relevance to the eruption. Just a silly story.

Radon is radioactive and causes respiratory problems and cancer.

[fifi]

I thought myself and Mary would become good friends [] Such a pity she wont be able to get my email. Some of the things she is discussing are interesting.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paMrV7ej748&feature=related

I wanted to contact her to get links to find out exactly where the dumps were. Its just the way I am Surfjames.... I love researching and  have to check everything several times before I believe anything that I am told. Worth looking into.

I will start on the internet and see what I can find out.

[Florence]

There are alot of cheerful people out there in la la land.  I think my chances of being killed by a tsunami, whirlpool, radon gas, erupting volcano, nuclear dumps, etc, etc., are pretty slim.  I am more likely to succumb to a fatal car crash, cancer or being hit over the head by an irate forum user.

[fifi]

[][][] Definitely Florence

[jand]

http://www.emsc-csem.org/Earthquake/earthquake.php?id=244405

There was a 4.4 earthquake in the Azores earlier this morning.

Interesting on the internet a lot of people are commenting how they think its to do with whats happening at El Hierro at the moment as the Azores seem to lie on the same fault line as the Canary Islands.

Magnitude

mb 4.4

Region

AZORES ISLANDS REGION

Date time

2011-11-14 02:02:50.0 UTC

Location

37.37 N ; 23.91 W

Depth

60 km

[jand]

Data Update 13/11 – 23:51 UTC :
 - SO2 (sulfur dioxide) emission has drastically dropped since high valued were measured on November 6.
Data Update 13/11 – 22:39 UTC :
 - very few earthquakes today : 15 > M 1.5, only 16 in total, which is the least since the period that ended on October 19.  Only the October 11 to October 19 period had the same low number of earthquakes and yes, that period was exactly the time of the Jacuzzis preceded by the forming of a stain.
 - 3 earthquakes were felt by the Herrenos today. The depth is between 14 and 23 km, nothing to worry about?
Time for a little prediction :  As Joke told us earlier today that she saw regularly grey colored water rising to the surface surrounded by the greenish stain, we had today an almost similar situation than during the October 10 and October 11 eruption. If the same pattern is followed in this phase, we will have Jacuzzi working within 2 to 3 days. We admit, it is only a prediction based on very few data, but merely by looking into the earthquakes / sea action who started at October 9.
 - The reason why there is only a vent to the south of El Pinar and not to the north, is that the Las Calmas area was the ONLY area on the island having a number of very shallow earthquakes.
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[jand]

http://earthquake-report.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/eh-13112011-2.jpg

Data Update 13/11 – 23:51 UTC :
 - SO2 (sulfur dioxide) emission has drastically dropped since high valued were measured on November 6.

 An increase in sulphur dioxide emissions can reflect rising magma. Likewise, a sudden decline in sulphur dioxide emissions following a period of rapid increase can suggest some blockage which may result in the build up of pressure.

[jand]

Avcan

ý3.2 sentido 7:28 H. 20kmts. Dpre y Sobre 500 mts. a la superficie del mar

http://www.ign.es/ign/layoutIn/volcaDetalleTerremotos.do?evid=1112392&zona=2

[jand]

laprovincia.es

Translated.
The Pevolca believed that he could evacuate border in 4 hours.

Scientists live attached to in El Hierro seismographs to detect if the eruptive phenomenon is evolving in direction to the people of the Gulf.

Four hours. This is the time estimated by the Canary Islands (Pevolca) volcanic emergency Plan to evacuate the border municipality, in the North of the island, if as expected the scientists produce a rash in the Gulf. That, in the worst possible scenario of the eruptive process that exists in El Hierro, i.e., the magma to break by Earth somewhere in the North. Although this is a remote at present possibility as evolves the volcano, the emergency services already have perfectly studied the situation to act in an extreme emergency, with the possibility, even, that the population has to be evacuated by sea.

While there is in the municipality of Frontera recorded more than four thousand inhabitants, it is estimated currently residing in the Gulf about 3,500 citizens. Precisely in the town is carried out these days a recount of the inhabitants that exist today, to having everything controlled should be taken to this extreme situation of the evacuation. However, the most likely scenario as it stands the eruptive phenomenon of North today is the eruption occurring in the sea, in an area of the Gulf where it reaches heights of more than a thousand meters deep slowly distanced himself from the coast. In fact, if the eruption occurs in that area, scientists have ensured that it is even possible that there are no visible to the population samples, such as in the South, at La Restinga, where a large patch of sulphur and the emergence of large amount of magmatic material evidence that an eruption is underway.

To produce the worst possible scenario, that is to say, that the volcanic process will open an eruptive mouth on ground, in the Gulf area, the Pevolca has also studied all scenarios. Bearing in mind that if the rash is on the ground would not occur explosions of magma, has established a security perimeter of 500 meters around the place which opens the eruptive mouth, which could be extended to a kilometer if necessary.

The area that, within the possibilities few that occurs the eruption on Earth, it is believed that the process might evolve, is the town of Los Llanillos. The border football field is the place of meeting provided for in the Pevolca in case of emergency; and if it is precisely by Los Llanillos, the population of that area (would not be necessary to evacuate to the municipality of Frontera) could be carried out by the Roquillos tunnel, as if open an eruptive mouth earthquakes would cease almost altogether, as it has happened in the South.

The second option of evacuation would be through the mountain, much more complicated road and which would be based on the place where bursting the eruption. And in the worst possible scenario, that the eruption is so great that it will affect one greater share of border, there even a plan to evacuate by sea to citizens, with the intervention of the Spanish Armada. Everything is planned in El Hierro.

[jand]

http://www.ign.es/ign/head/volcaSenalesAnterioresDia.do?nombreFichero=CHIE_2011-11-14&estacion=CHIE&Anio=2011&Mes=11&Dia=14

Showing the last earthquake at 07.28.

http://www.ign.es/ign/layoutIn/volcaDetalleTerremotos.do?evid=1112392&zona=2

[jand]

http://i.minus.com/ib10l0DIG6KVN1.jpg



Glowing white lights on the live wecam in the sea and bubbling in the stain.

Someone has commented there are white rocks coming up into the sea.

[Florence]

quote:Originally posted by jand

http://www.emsc-csem.org/Earthquake/earthquake.php?id=244405

There was a 4.4 earthquake in the Azores earlier this morning.

Interesting on the internet a lot of people are commenting how they think its to do with whats happening at El Hierro at the moment as the Azores seem to lie on the same fault line as the Canary Islands.

Magnitude

mb 4.4

The Azores are indeed located near tectonic fault lines (Azores triple junction) and are therefore prone to earthquakes.  The Canary Islands are above a hotspot (possibly a mantle plume) so the activity here is not related to tectonic plate movement. I am no expert on this but believe that the two archipelagoes are quite different in origin and any earthquakes in the Azores would not be linked to the El Hierro eruption.

I understand that some of the website you frequent would suggest otherwise but you could double check by googling.

Region

AZORES ISLANDS REGION

Date time

2011-11-14 02:02:50.0 UTC

Location

37.37 N ; 23.91 W

Depth

60 km

[jand]

Another persons point Of View.

Most recently seismic activity began to rattle under El Hierro the smallest of the Canary Islands. On Friday 7 October, 2011 a magnitude 4 quake hit the middle of the North Atlantic near the Azores Islands, Portugal. On Monday October 3, 2011 two magnitude 4.5 quakes rattled an area 130 km off Bermuda.

On Saturday 8 October, 2011 a magnitude 4.3 tremor was El Hierro's largest quake so far in a long series of seismic tremors to be detected around the Island.

If you draw a line from Canary Islands seismic activity to the Azores, then to Bermuda and back to El Hierro .. what kind of a triangle is that? Would you call that a "Scalene Triangle" .. I am not sure? Let's say it is a triangle. I have this theory that earthquake activity display triangular harmonics of any give size.

By "Triangular Harmonics" I mean that I don't believe that earthquakes are random events created by the smashing together of tectonic plates. The weakness of smashing or sliding tectonic plates theory is that the effect would not be location-restricted as claimed by scientists who propose this theory.

When you watch the daily seismic activity maps over a period of time, you start to realise that tectonic plate theory does not answer what you are seeing on those maps.

I see larger and smaller seismic [harmonic] triangulation events that probably reveal another hidden structure to the physical planet. In other words the physical structure of rock and earth is overlaid onto a precise mathematical geometrical structure. The underlying structure conducts energy / magnetism. On our 3D level volcanoes play a part in that essential structure.

On the opposite side of the Canary Islands one cannot ignore Sicily [Mount Etna] .. maybe triangular is the wrong word .. as the harmonic resonance is not flat but is a -hedron in nature. Tetrahedron, octahedron .. I mean the harmonic is not LINEAR and does not travel across the land or under the sea as a flat wave. The seismic harmonic is greater than the focal point of measured activity.

Geologists claim that Bermuda is a volcanic sea mountain that formed from the mid Atlantic ridge. The Bermuda Islands form the edge of a volcanic caldera. The archipelago of the Azores are composed of nine volcanic Islands. The Canary archipelago comprises seven main volcanic Islands.

Is it possible these three hot spots of recent activity are not isolated incidents unrelated to each other?

No one knows why the quakes under El Hierro are slowly increasing in magnitude. The concern would be not only that there may be a potential eruption from one of the volcanic vents on the island; but a large magnitude earthquake may potentially set of landslides. Of course, one has to take the Canary Islands as a whole. Although the Islands are separated by water - underground they are connected by volcanic activity.

I am not a scientist - but I would imagine that the same forces of nature created all the Islands on the Canary island chain. I would also imagine that there is an unseen connection between the Canary islands, the Azores and Bermuda.

[SurfJames]

The jacuzzi is very clear on the webcam this morning. A boat just went out to have a look.

It looks more active today. And you can see the staining in the water.

[woe10]

MAYBE IT WILL END UP LIKE THIS
BORA BORA TO 4 MILLION YEARS TO GET TO THIS STAGE
THE MIDDLE BIT IS SINKING BACK INTO THE SEA
IN 25 MILLION YEARS IT WILL BE GONE LEAVING JUST THE OUTER RIM (ATOLL)

[fifi]

Beautiful photo Woe.The boat you could see belonged to  the Guardia Civil Surfjames.



The jacuzzi today.



The latest photo from NASA showing the pollution in the sea.

[falkirkdan]

Hi Fi

I am trying to follow but get beaten with all the technical jargon and the google type translation.

The first volcano I think was to the south of the island but now it seems that all the activity is to the north west am I correct.   Has the one to south gone inactive?

Can you give me links to the web cams.   Think I have one but nothing showing as close as your pic Fi or did you do something clever with the image.

[fifi]

Hi Danny,the concentration of earthquakes lately has been mainly in the North around the El Golfo Bay. The Ramon Margalef ship reported emissions of magma in that area from a fissure and there was a stain shown by the helicopter there on 1st November but so far thats all the news on that area.

Down South there have been a few different areas emitting gasses, one is supposed to be about 3/4 miles from the pier  and the other 2.4 kilometres. The webcams are in the South of the Island but they mentioned putting some in other areas too.

If you are looking for the jacuzzi on the webcam look out for a white mark in the water, occasionally you will see a dark area protruding depending on what it is emitting. Sometimes there isnt a lot to see.

You can see the two different webcam views here.http://earthquake-report.com/2011/11/12/32535/

That webcam screenshot was from early this morning.

[falkirkdan]

Just watched a boat on the web cam do a slow approach then turn and do a very hasty retreat.

[fifi]

Windows has a great little accessory called a snipping tool. Its great for copying images from the webcam and is easy to use. You just click on it and draw a line with your cursor over the area of the screen you want to copy and then save it.


Jacuzzi is emitting dark material at the moment.

[pennylane]

Fi are you watching the web cam I'm just having my lunch and came on line there's some activity right now and the boats gone out of shot too ?
Glen x

[pennylane]

there gors the helicopter flying over to have a gander

[fifi]

Yes you can see dark material coming from the jacuzzi but at a very low level.

[fifi]

Ive lost my connection now.

[pennylane]

Fi the boat's back, isn't too close for comfort ?

[fifi]

Ive only got the close up shot now so cant see the boat. You can clearly see the black ash or whatever it is every now and then.

Connection gone again....grrr

[pennylane]

boats just gone back into the harbour and the helicopter's just flown round again !