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Started by ashworth, November 30, 2017, 07:55:31 AM

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Johnrgby2

Quote from: ashworth on November 30, 2017, 07:55:31 AM
https://www.cruisetimetables.com/visitingpuertodelrosariofuerteventura-30nov2017.html

2 cruise ships in Rosario today with over 5000 passengers and 2000 crew. Shops should be happy.

There were five liners in last week, so unless there are three more scheduled, the shopkeepers will be unhappy ;D

The AidaPrima was in last week, a really impressive looking vessel, it is only a couple of years old, and is the largest ship The Aida line have, While The Aurora if my memory serves is nearly twenty years old, and I am sure a few years ago it had a serious fire on board and was adrift in the Solent.

TamaraEnLaPlaya

Quote from: ashworth on November 30, 2017, 07:55:31 AM
https://www.cruisetimetables.com/visitingpuertodelrosariofuerteventura-30nov2017.html

2 cruise ships in Rosario today with over 5000 passengers and 2000 crew. Shops should be happy.

Thanks for the link, useful for knowing when to avoid Puerto!

Johnrgby2

The Horizon is in Today, but only has 1800+ passengers, so should not be a problem, The Mein Scheif is in Gran Canaria today so will probably be in Rosario tomorrow.

Archer

Would be useful if you could buy 'mini-cruises' on these ships and go around the islands like they do in the carribean. If you don't have residents discount, flying to say, La Palma, is costly.

Johnrgby2

Quote from: Archer on December 01, 2017, 11:03:56 AM
Would be useful if you could buy 'mini-cruises' on these ships and go around the islands like they do in the carribean. If you don't have residents discount, flying to say, La Palma, is costly.

The issue is I think they have set itineraries, which do not allow for change, and people boarding mid cruise would necessitate there be either passenger,s disembarking to allow room for new passengers, or there being empty cabins already on board, which does not make commercial sense.
Anyway does not bother us, as we tried A med cruise some 30+ years ago mostly out of curiosity, and while we enjoyed the ability to explore different countries while in port, hated the onboard experience, { and hated is not a term I use lightly ] felt like a very upmarket floating Butlins.

GSD Girl

We saw AidaPrima last time we were in Rosario. What a monster. Very impressive but would swap a week in a tent on Fuerte for a month on that. Never been on a cruise and they do say “don`t knock it ‘til you`ve tried it”,  but sometimes you just know.

spitfire58

Quote from: GSD Girl on December 01, 2017, 13:28:10 PM
We saw AidaPrima last time we were in Rosario. What a monster. Very impressive but would swap a week in a tent on Fuerte for a month on that. Never been on a cruise and they do say “don`t knock it ‘til you`ve tried it”,  but sometimes you just know.

I think the same.
Never been on one but would feel a bit like being in prison (don`t know what that`s like either though, lol)
I don`t like being “contained” or “controlled” so it`s Fuerte for me 😁😁

Deso

We did a Norwegian Fjords cruise last June on the Thomson Celebration, older, smaller ship and more informal than some.

It was pleasant enough, you could eat and drink when you wanted, the staff were brilliant and some nice scenery on the way.
The Captain was great, been at sea man and boy and had some good tales to tell.

I enjoyed it but wouldn't bother me if I never went on another.
Regards, Neil
Looking forward to the day I tick the "One way only" box when booking flights to Fuerte. [:)]

Can the Man

Quote from: Johnrgby2 on December 01, 2017, 11:33:46 AM
Quote from: Archer on December 01, 2017, 11:03:56 AM
Would be useful if you could buy 'mini-cruises' on these ships and go around the islands like they do in the carribean. If you don't have residents discount, flying to say, La Palma, is costly.

The issue is I think they have set itineraries, which do not allow for change, and people boarding mid cruise would necessitate there be either passenger,s disembarking to allow room for new passengers, or there being empty cabins already on board, which does not make commercial sense.
Anyway does not bother us, as we tried A med cruise some 30+ years ago mostly out of curiosity, and while we enjoyed the ability to explore different countries while in port, hated the onboard experience, { and hated is not a term I use lightly ] felt like a very upmarket floating Butlins.

I`ve never done this type of cruise, and your sentiments is exactly why I don`t want to despite the wife`s moaning about wanting to do one. I brought her on a 5 day cruise in Egypt on the Nile river exploring the east and west banks every day which was brilliant and I would highly recommend it.

bedouin

I'm never convinced that cruise ships bring much revenue to local traders.  The ships are mainly AI, so passengers won't often pay to eat and drink ashore.  And there's only so many fridge magnets and saucy t-shirts you might want to buy!

paully

Quote from: bedouin on December 01, 2017, 21:47:00 PM
I'm never convinced that cruise ships bring much revenue to local traders.  The ships are mainly AI, so passengers won't often pay to eat and drink ashore.  And there's only so many fridge magnets and saucy t-shirts you might want to buy!


The same view has just been put forward by the Chamber of Commerce in Gibraltar. Despite an increase in cruise ships there, spending is down. Their view is that the present day customers don`t have the same disposable income as in days gone by when it was less passengers but more dosh to spend.As Bedouin says mostly AI and come to have a mooch about and back on board.
I HATE computer thingyss

spitfire58

Quote from: paully on December 01, 2017, 22:48:53 PM
Quote from: bedouin on December 01, 2017, 21:47:00 PM
I'm never convinced that cruise ships bring much revenue to local traders.  The ships are mainly AI, so passengers won't often pay to eat and drink ashore.  And there's only so many fridge magnets and saucy t-shirts you might want to buy!


The same view has just been put forward by the Chamber of Commerce in Gibraltar. Despite an increase in cruise ships there, spending is down. Their view is that the present day customers don`t have the same disposable income as in days gone by when it was less passengers but more dosh to spend.As Bedouin says mostly AI and come to have a mooch about and back on board.

It surely must make some difference. Even if they are AI they would be out & about for the day so must have lunch, coffee etc as well as the nic nacs. If you have a couple of thousand extra people in it all helps & with time constraints they probably don`t go far from PDR

GSD Girl

Your right Spitfire. A client of mine is on a cruise that docks in Rosario on 13th December. He and his partner are meeting up for lunch and the afternoon with friends who will be on holiday in Fuerte. He has invited us along. So they alone will create the revenue from at least six lunches and they might even buy a tea towel or two.

erik_tonny

Quote from: Johnrgby2 on December 01, 2017, 11:33:46 AM
Quote from: Archer on December 01, 2017, 11:03:56 AM
Would be useful if you could buy 'mini-cruises' on these ships and go around the islands like they do in the carribean. If you don't have residents discount, flying to say, La Palma, is costly.

The issue is I think they have set itineraries, which do not allow for change, and people boarding mid cruise would necessitate there be either passenger,s disembarking to allow room for new passengers, or there being empty cabins already on board, which does not make commercial sense.
Anyway does not bother us, as we tried A med cruise some 30+ years ago mostly out of curiosity, and while we enjoyed the ability to explore different countries while in port, hated the onboard experience, { and hated is not a term I use lightly ] felt like a very upmarket floating Butlins.
When we were going to the usa without being in a rush, we would hop onto a cruiseship on Aruba (where we lived) for the remaining trip to Fort Lauderdale.

cockney

Many if not most of the passengers will leave the ship and go on excursion trips around the island. These will always be organised by local companies and often include a stop at a shop or bar so adding to the local ecomomy.

woe10

Quote from: ashworth on November 30, 2017, 07:55:31 AM
https://www.cruisetimetables.com/visitingpuertodelrosariofuerteventura-30nov2017.html

2 cruise ships in Rosario today with over 5000 passengers and 2000 crew. Shops should be happy.

Shops and Restaurants in Rosario haven't cottened on yet. Most of them are shut in the afternoon. Nothing will stop their Siestas. Rotundas stays open but they just browse because of the prices.

Johnrgby2

Quote from: woe10 on December 02, 2017, 17:24:47 PM
Quote from: ashworth on November 30, 2017, 07:55:31 AM
https://www.cruisetimetables.com/visitingpuertodelrosariofuerteventura-30nov2017.html

2 cruise ships in Rosario today with over 5000 passengers and 2000 crew. Shops should be happy.

Shops and Restaurants in Rosario haven't cottoned on yet. Most of them are shut in the afternoon. Nothing will stop their Siestas. Rotundas stays open but they just browse because of the prices.

Totally different to Lanzarote, where there are a large number of duty shops very close to where the cruise ships berth.

ashworth

Quote from: woe10 on December 02, 2017, 17:24:47 PM
Quote from: ashworth on November 30, 2017, 07:55:31 AM
https://www.cruisetimetables.com/visitingpuertodelrosariofuerteventura-30nov2017.html

2 cruise ships in Rosario today with over 5000 passengers and 2000 crew. Shops should be happy.

Shops and Restaurants in Rosario haven't cottened on yet. Most of them are shut in the afternoon. Nothing will stop their Siestas. Rotundas stays open but they just browse because of the prices.
I was in the Port Thurs afternoon and there were lots of passengers going back on the ships with bags full of bargains from the Rotundas. Happy days for the shops.

Johnrgby2

Aidavita In Rosario today, unusual for one to arrive on a Sunday, but only 1200+ passengers and circa 450 crew, what they will find to do on a Sunday I have no idea, or perhaps the locals will spot a business opportunity and open their businesses?

Hang on I am becoming delusional, I was probably over-served in Chaplin,s last night ::) ::)

GSD Girl


Johnrgby2

Quote from: GSD Girl on December 03, 2017, 10:51:03 AM
Go to Church may be?

Mmmmm! a lot of money to go to a church in a foreign country

woe10

Quote from: ashworth on December 03, 2017, 07:43:50 AM
Quote from: woe10 on December 02, 2017, 17:24:47 PM
Quote from: ashworth on November 30, 2017, 07:55:31 AM
https://www.cruisetimetables.com/visitingpuertodelrosariofuerteventura-30nov2017.html

2 cruise ships in Rosario today with over 5000 passengers and 2000 crew. Shops should be happy.

Shops and Restaurants in Rosario haven't cottened on yet. Most of them are shut in the afternoon. Nothing will stop their Siestas. Rotundas stays open but they just browse because of the prices.
I was in the Port Thurs afternoon and there were lots of passengers going back on the ships with bags full of bargains from the Rotundas. Happy days for the shops.

I think you're exaggerating there a bit.

erik_tonny

Quote from: Johnrgby2 on December 03, 2017, 10:18:43 AM
Hang on I am becoming delusional,

A known problem with old retired shopkeepers (better known as dementia)
Don't forget to ignore me  :D

Johnrgby2

Quote from: erik_tonny on December 03, 2017, 13:46:04 PM
Quote from: Johnrgby2 on December 03, 2017, 10:18:43 AM
Hang on I am becoming delusional,

A known problem with old retired shopkeepers (better known as dementia)
Don't forget to ignore me  :D

::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ;D

ashworth

Quote from: woe10 on December 03, 2017, 12:23:36 PM
Quote from: ashworth on December 03, 2017, 07:43:50 AM
Quote from: woe10 on December 02, 2017, 17:24:47 PM
Quote from: ashworth on November 30, 2017, 07:55:31 AM
https://www.cruisetimetables.com/visitingpuertodelrosariofuerteventura-30nov2017.html

2 cruise ships in Rosario today with over 5000 passengers and 2000 crew. Shops should be happy.

Shops and Restaurants in Rosario haven't cottened on yet. Most of them are shut in the afternoon. Nothing will stop their Siestas. Rotundas stays open but they just browse because of the prices.
I was in the Port Thurs afternoon and there were lots of passengers going back on the ships with bags full of bargains from the Rotundas. Happy days for the shops.

I think you're exaggerating there a bit.
So 5000 people arrive in a place full of shops selling great value bargain clothes and they are not going to buy anything!!! Take a trip next time a ship comes in see for your self.

ashworth

Just back from Rosario. 2 liners in one with 3300 passengers on it. The biggest ship I have seen here. There were coaches doing Island trips,. Motorbike/Bike hires going out and taxis doing trips everywhere. The port was buzzing and lots of money being spent especially in the Rotondas which was packed. Looks like it is going to be a very Busy December.

Deso

Quote from: ashworth on December 07, 2017, 17:21:23 PM
Just back from Rosario. 2 liners in one with 3300 passengers on it.

Bet it's a bugger getting served at the bar on there.   :D
Regards, Neil
Looking forward to the day I tick the "One way only" box when booking flights to Fuerte. [:)]

Johnrgby2

Quote from: ashworth on December 07, 2017, 17:21:23 PM
Just back from Rosario. 2 liners in one with 3300 passengers on it. The biggest ship I have seen here. There were coaches doing Island trips,. Motorbike/Bike hires going out and taxis doing trips everywhere. The port was buzzing and lots of money being spent especially in the Rotondas which was packed. Looks like it is going to be a very Busy December.

If both those ships are anywhere near capacity there will be 4800+ passengers and 1200 crew, The Aidaprima carries 3300 passengers and 900 crew, and the Marella Dream, which is a Thompson Ship, 1500 Passengers, and 900 crew, must be close to the oldest cruise liner afloat, circa 1985, replaced the Oceanic in the 50,s, but was called something else back then.

But as you say Ashworth a busy December,

Johnrgby2

Quote from: Deso on December 07, 2017, 17:49:12 PM
Quote from: ashworth on December 07, 2017, 17:21:23 PM
Just back from Rosario. 2 liners in one with 3300 passengers on it.

Bet it's a bugger getting served at the bar on there.   :D

:D :D :D :D and do not even think of the price of drinks on them. ???