How long to walk

[fizzy lemonade]

Just wondering how long it would take to walk (stroll) the beach, from Gran Hotel Natura to Reynaldos down near km22, in total timewise, understand about no nudity in front of the two hotels

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[paully]

Really getting a crack on, maybe 35mins or more, the sand is lovely but very soft and can slow you down a bit, depending where you are..Take it leisurely and take in the lovely views and your holiday and time is an abstract concept 

  Nice walk

[jg]

It's just over 3 miles so I would allow an hour.
Although it is a heavy textile area between the hotels I have never dressed for that portion of the walk and never had any problems.
I would not expect that you would have any problems so long as you stayed along the waterline.

[stormborn]

We often stay at the Gran Natura and often do this walk. It takes us 60/65 minutes.

You are right when you say cover up between the 2 hotels. Just because jg hasn't received any complaints about his exhibisonism in a "family area" doesn't make it acceptable.

[Beachfun]

We totally agree with Stormborn for the 10 min walk between the Tres Islas and Riu Olivia it is just common courtesy to cover up as this is a very heavy populated family area ,you have miles to walk naked before and after that area and nobody bothers so JG should not be subjecting families to his selfish attitude .
We have stayed in the Tres Islas many times and never walked that part naked ever!

RESPECT OTHERS CHOICES ALSO

[jg]

If I believed that there were any adults on the  beach who would be traumatised by the sight of a naked human being then I would cover up instantly, as I always do at other appropriate locations, but can anybody explain to me why it is so important that children should not know what people look like.
All the reliable evidence that I have seen tends to exactly the opposite conclusion.

[stormborn]

If I believed that there were any adults on the  beach who would be traumatised by the sight of a naked human being then I would cover up instantly, as I always do at other appropriate locations, but can anybody explain to me why it is so important that children should not know what people look like.
All the reliable evidence that I have seen tends to exactly the opposite conclusion.

Anybody who thinks it's good for children to "see their dick" and does not respect parents wishes to use  a textile family area are undoubtedly selfish, arrogant, perverted and possibly dangerous.

Clearly you have no respect for anybody or anything and are interested only in getting your exhibisionist orgasm.

It's people like you that get naturists a bad name.

[paully]

If I believed that there were any adults on the  beach who would be traumatised by the sight of a naked human being then I would cover up instantly, as I always do at other appropriate locations, but can anybody explain to me why it is so important that children should not know what people look like.
All the reliable evidence that I have seen tends to exactly the opposite conclusion.

I find it hard to understand the logic behind the arrogance you have clearly shown, although not for the first time on here. What you have done is make a public record of comments that these days the Police tend to  investigate when complaints are laid. You have nothing in common with naturism.Close the door on your way out 

[Beachfun]

 Think this post says  all we need to know about why JG  chooses to walk naked at  the hotels


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Re: naturist walking inland

« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2016, 12:01:26 pm »


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Quote from: dampsquib on March 26, 2016, 06:47:23 am

In recent years, I've had some brilliant naked rambles in the barrancos, and on the ridges & mountains in the south of the island. On many days, I see no one. On a busy day, I might pass a handful of people. One or two adopt 'tunnel vision', a few chuckle, but mostly we pass the time of day, as though they hadn't noticed. I love being free of sweaty clothes.



Do you get any of the ladies who have a good inspection of "the equipment" while simultaneously pretending that you are not there?
I always find them rather amusing.

[jill tie]

If I believed that there were any adults on the  beach who would be traumatised by the sight of a naked human being then I would cover up instantly, as I always do at other appropriate locations, but can anybody explain to me why it is so important that children should not know what people look like.
All the reliable evidence that I have seen tends to exactly the opposite conclusion.

That should be the parents choice not yours and you should respect that.  Not sure what "evidence" you are talking about?

[SoCal]

I find it hard to understand the logic behind the arrogance you have clearly shown, although not for the first time on here. What you have done is make a public record of comments that these days the Police tend to  investigate when complaints are laid. You have nothing in common with naturism.Close the door on your way out 

How sad. JG has been a long time defender and proponent of the naturist lifestyle. He has continually reminded us that the “shame” people experience regarding nudity is an outcome of cultural oppression. That being naked provides a way of bringing equality to society. Nudists are simply humans regardless of penis size, long or short, breast size, large or removed, gender identity, height, race, age, etc.  For a nudist, a person is not judged by the quality of their cars or clothes, but rather by the quality of their personality. 

Given that the 99.999999% of the world shuns our lifestyle, shouldn`t it be possible to find a small section of the world, even a dried up rock in the middle of nowhere, where nudists aren`t treated like caged animals or viewed as rapists and pedophiles?

Any intelligent individual who possesses enough income to travel to Fuerteventura, should be able to conduct the minimal amount of research to discover that their children might be exposed to “naked” people.  JG has just as much a right to walk on the beach naked as others possess the right to ignore him. 

Now let us get to the data. In short, exposure to nudity and "primal scenes" had, in general , a positive effect of children according to this 18 year long longitudinal study. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9681119
However, not everything came up as roses and this study is beyond what JG was suggesting. 

So I encourage you all to join the nudist society, where everyone is welcome based on quality of the personality, and not on their willingness to simply abide by social norms.  Indeed, isn`t this a form of respect?

[stormborn]

SoCal,

The only sad thing about jg is the man himself and based upon the nonsense you have just written you don't seem too far behind in the desireability stakes.

Being a naturist is no excuse for not showing respect to others who do not share your lifestyle choice. As you say, naturists are very much in a minority and we will not increase our numbers or acceptability by deliberately going out of our way to offend.

If we wish others to respect our lifestyle we must also respect theirs.

[jg]

I must apologise for not making myself totally clear in my last post.

In the first place, in the last few years when I have walked past the hotels there have been no families on the beach and it has been perfectly easy to stay far enough away from any other people to not cause any offense. This may have been because of the time of day or time of year that I was visiting, but it was so.
My mention of walking along the waterline was the tactic which I have used when I have had no clothing with me and did not intend to visit Renaldo's. The reason for walking there was so that, if there were people or families who might be offended, I could walk out into the sea so that I was waist deep or swimming and therefore not exposing myself to such people.

I apologise to the forum for not making this clear in my previous posts.

[SheilaW]

What a beautiful post, SoCal. Thank you for a lovely summing up of how naturists feel about their and others' bodies. It always cheers me that those with colostomies, mastectomies, scarring, amputations etc so often feel much more at ease in a naturist environment than a textile one. My own brother found that to be true after surgeons had opened up his chest, side and back: T-shirt needed on textile beaches to avoid stares and whispers; minimal reaction when he stumbled by accident onto a naturist beach.

People are so quick to judge others nowadays so please be very careful what you write JG. The idea of nudity damaging kids is well entrenched in some parents' minds. I can't imagine where it came from as it's clearly so totally untrue. Ask any young kid and they'll give an honest answer - they don't notice and don't care. An older one will simply repeat the parents' views, learned over the years.

It's such a shame that it has changed from a family club scene to an "adult" one. It should by rights be the families who are nude - it always used to be that way. But now youhave to be very careful when booking a naturist holiday. Is it just simple nudity or is it "lifestyle", "hedonistic" or "swingers"? I'm happy for them to exist but more and more naturist hotels, campsites and cruises are going that way, and it isn't a way that I'm happy with personally.

[stormborn]

Somebody pass the sick bucket please.

The naturist fundamentalists, like all extremists, have a distorted perception of reality.

Why is it that the fundamentalists have this notion that only they can atune with nature, are compassionate, virtuous, lead blameless life's and know what's best for others?

[bedouin]

Being a naturist is no excuse for not showing respect to others who do not share your lifestyle choice.

This is a difficult issue to debate sensibly though.  For example, if a clothed family appears on a beach which is well-known to be generally naturist, would you expect the naturists to dress out of respect for the clothed people?

[stewarty]

Stormborn - you write with eloquent vigour, but your posts don' t seem to be replies to the thoughtful posts they purport to be responding to. Rather you seem to be bringing in some hobbyhorses of your own from elsewhere.
It reminds me, perhaps inaccurately, of the angry bitternesses of the 'safe space / trigger warning / political correctness' debates going on in education at the moment.
I remain convinced that even old men (such as me) can pass unthreateningly  and uncorruptingly naked among the tolerant mixed beaches of Fuerteventura, as I have been doing with calm delight, if rather slowly and limpingly, this past six days of blissful weather.......

[stormborn]

Being a naturist is no excuse for not showing respect to others who do not share your lifestyle choice.

This is a difficult issue to debate sensibly though.  For example, if a clothed family appears on a beach which is well-known to be generally naturist, would you expect the naturists to dress out of respect for the clothed people?

There is an unwritten rule that you "cover up" on town beaches and beaches in front of family hotels. I believe all reasonable naturists should respect the textiles lifestyle choice by observing this.

If textiles, including families, choose to visit a beach generally known and accepted as naturist then that is their choice and they should respect the naturist lifestyle.

It is well known that both naturists and families/textiles are common on the island and problems only arise when extremists of either lifestyle show no respect or acceptance of the other.

[stormborn]

Stormborn - you write with eloquent vigour, but your posts don' t seem to be replies to the thoughtful posts they purport to be responding to. Rather you seem to be bringing in some hobbyhorses of your own from elsewhere.
It reminds me, perhaps inaccurately, of the angry bitternesses of the 'safe space / trigger warning / political correctness' debates going on in education at the moment.
I remain convinced that even old men (such as me) can pass unthreateningly  and uncorruptingly naked among the tolerant mixed beaches of Fuerteventura, as I have been doing with calm delight, if rather slowly and limpingly, this past six days of blissful weather.......

The thoughtful posts you refer to are nothing more than opinions and have no basis in fact that can be substantiated and nor do they approach anything approaching a thesis. That you agree with these opinions is your prerogative, just as it is my prerogative to disagree if I wish.

Your opinion of me is rooted in ignorance but I forgive you because I am genuinely tolerant of others and respect their right to disagree without taking it personally or getting upset. 

[helsbelles]

I remain convinced that even old men (such as me) can pass unthreateningly  and uncorruptingly naked among the tolerant mixed beaches of Fuerteventura, as I have been doing with calm delight, if rather slowly and limpingly, this past six days of blissful weather.......

Nobody has suggested you or genuine naturists generally are a threat to children. What has been said is that naturists should show respect and cover up on town beaches and in front of family hotels. Re-read  Beachfun's excellent post about RESPECT earlier in the thread.