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Latest updates on Astra 2F and its effects on TV channels available

Started by fourthwisemonkey, October 08, 2012, 12:27:46 PM

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fourthwisemonkey

Astra 2F is not far off from its testing position now so looks like everything is on schedule for a mid-end November switchover of channels from Astra 1N (almost definately going to be before xmas)

Also mid october will see the BBC closing down the streams currently available on 11954H (moving to UK spot beam) and also all BBC radio channels are migrating to UK spot beam on 12-16 Oct.

Current predictions for 2F reception (note prediction=guess as until the beams are lit up we will not know anything for sure) are that the European beam (which will contain a lot of the Sky subscription stuff) will require a 1.2 metre dish (a 1 metre may suffice but may suffer from weather fade) and for the UK Spot beam it is anyones guess but will probably mean a 3 metre dish or above.

Could be an interesting couple of months before xmas and should keep all the reputable installers busy.  ;)

My advice to anyone thinking of having TV installed is to wait until december, go for the nilesat package or look into iptv or rebroadcasters.

ZappaRocks

The present size is 3.5m for all channels 24hrs a day, that looks to change. Which means UKTV will not be able to receive it either to rebroadcast. Though I've been told that they already have an internet backup waiting in case.

The vast majority of pay per view subscribers will already have a 1.2m dish installed to get the film channels. The rest on a 80cm dish probably won't be happy sticking with what they have but luckily their dish is more than enough for Nilesat, if that is their dish can be physically turned.

When Sky first moved to it's present position of 28.2 East (when Sky first went digital) we had a helluva time with some owners who just couldn't accept the fact that they could no longer receive Sky. Some dishes when turned to the new position were then pointing directly into chimney stacks, walls or other obstacles. In other cases they were part of a heritage area or even just the house itself which meant no visible dishes, though I don't think it applies here unless someone wanted to stick it on a windmill.  :o
Try to educate a fool and you become one

Deso

"SES-Astra" have set the 15th of November, 2012 as their target date for "Astra 2F" to become operational at 28.2 degrees east, this means that we can expect Astra 2F to be moving from it's current 43.5 degrees east test position next week.

Fingers crossed.   :)
Regards, Neil
Looking forward to the day I tick the "One way only" box when booking flights to Fuerte. [:)]

smurf

Looks like loads of DVD for me cant even get a decent internet signal were we are  ;D

Deso

Taken from here.....http://robssatellitetv.webs.com/astra2f.htm


UPDATE 08/11/12 - Astra 2F - The provisional date for the moving of "Astra 1N" channels to "Astra 2F" is the 23rd - 26th of November, these moves will include the "BBC" and "ITV" channels, if this news is correct it means that "Astra 2F" is expected to be moving soon
Regards, Neil
Looking forward to the day I tick the "One way only" box when booking flights to Fuerte. [:)]

Deso

Latest update from Rob's Sattellite site.......
 
http://robssatellitetv.webs.com/astra2f.htm


UPDATE 11/11/12 - Astra 2F - Now that "Astra 2F" is on the move and as it has now been officially confirmed that "Astra 2F" will (barring any last minute glitches) be operational at the 28.2 degrees east satellite position later this month what comes next? All "Astra 1N" channels should have been transferred to "Astra 2F" by end of this month and then "Astra 1N" will be empty and free to go to it's originally intended satellite position of 19.2 degrees east, transfer of "Astra 1N" to 19.2 degrees east will most probably have happened by mid to late January 2013, now this is where it gets a little confusing, I am expecting the all "Astra 2B" channels will also be transferred to "Astra 2F", the "Astra 2B" satellite which according to "SES-Astra" is also supposedly going to 19.2 degrees east should have been emptied of it's channels sometime in December, the transfer date of when "Astra 2B" goes to 19.2 degrees east is currently not clear but there are other factors to consider which also come into play when talking about the "Astra 2B" move and most notably it is "Astra 2C", I told you this would be a little confusing, "Astra 2C" is at the 19.2 degrees east satellite position but according to "SES-Astra" it's rightful home should be 28.2 degrees east and "Astra 2C" is supposedly to be transferred to the 28.2 degrees east satellite position in the future.So, some questions, After the "Astra 1N" move, Which satellite do "SES-Astra" move first, "Astra 2C" or "Astra 2B"? And do "SES-Astra" move "Astra 2C" and "Astra 2B" before or after the even newer "Astra 2E" satellite for 28.2 degrees satellite is launched around the expected March 2013 launch date? I know what my trusty "crystal ball" is telling me but that is for another day, after writing this I now need a beer!! LOL!! Rob's Satellite TV, the forward thinking satellite website which always gives you something different and colourful and always giving you "Food for Thought".


This could end up as the Satellite equivalent of the 'El Hierro' post.  :o  :D
Regards, Neil
Looking forward to the day I tick the "One way only" box when booking flights to Fuerte. [:)]

potash


Latest update from Rob's Sattellite site.......
 
http://robssatellitetv.webs.com/astra2f.htm





UPDATE 11/11/12 - Astra 2F - "ASTRA 2F" has begun it's move from 43.5 to 28.5 degrees east, the end is nigh!! LOL!!
NB -  When I say "end is nigh" I mean the long wait for 2F at 28.2E is nearly over not that your channels are nearly gone

Deso

So, beginning of December should see if the 1.9m dishes can still do their stuff.
I don't have one but fingers crossed.  :)
Regards, Neil
Looking forward to the day I tick the "One way only" box when booking flights to Fuerte. [:)]

Deso

UPDATE 14/11/12 - Astra 2F - "Astra 2F" is currently (at the time of writing) at the 35.7 degrees east satellite position and it is moving along nicely, arrival at 28.2 degrees east is predicted to be on the 19th of November

Half way there.   :D
Regards, Neil
Looking forward to the day I tick the "One way only" box when booking flights to Fuerte. [:)]

Deso

Latest update from   http://robssatellitetv.webs.com/astra2f.htm


UPDATE 19/11/12 - Astra 2F - "Astra 2F" is now in the final stages of being positioned at 28.2 degrees east, there will be another update on Astra 2F later this evening



UPDATE 19/11/12 - Astra 2F - The "Astra 2F" satellite will be in it's correct position imminently, the moving of BBC/ITV e.t.c. channels from Astra 1N to Astra 2F will not be happening immediately when Astra 2F is in it's correct 28.2 position, there will be a small period of testing before all that happens, when this small period of testing commences then the frequency information will be posted here and I will hopefully be receiving a most welcome "deluge" of reception reports from my very kind reception reporters all over Europe, these reception reports will be posted on my "Astra 2F Reception Reports" and "Astra 2F Reception Maps" pages, naturally when something "drastic" happens it will also be posted on this website. Nothing has happened to your channels yet, when it is imminent you will know about it here, there is speculation that the Astra 1N to Astra 2F channel switchover may not now happen until early December (unconfirmed), this is the nature of the satellite business, dates and plans very often do change, nothing is ever set in stone with these matters but rest assured that this website will give you all the latest happenings as they happen, but I will also remind you (it is common knowledge) that this website gives you the latest happenings before they happen too!


Regards, Neil
Looking forward to the day I tick the "One way only" box when booking flights to Fuerte. [:)]

woe10

Will it effect (or not effect) BBC and ITV reception on my Sky HD box.

Deso

The short answer is, we don't know yet.

If the footprint of 2F is the same as 1N then it shouldn't make any difference unless they change frequencies and other techie things.
We should have a better idea in the next couple of weeks.

What size dish do you have Woe?
Regards, Neil
Looking forward to the day I tick the "One way only" box when booking flights to Fuerte. [:)]

ZappaRocks

We don't know exactly but we do know it will be tighter round the UK, they're expecting to use a 1.9m dish in Spain, previously here you needed a 3.5m dish which looks like it won't be big enough either.

The new satellite has new technology which tightens the beam further. What we do know is that the BBC have no plans to broadcast Europe wide on this sat to save money but since they are also broadcasting near free to air from it's back up satellite receivable on a 1.1m dish they are complying with new EU directives. At present on that sat only CH5 is missing.

The commercial channels like ITV and 4 may return to a Europe wide beam but there are no plans anytime soon if ever, BBC have said they are definitely not.

BBC are trying to cut costs as the Sky electronic program guide (EPG) alone costs about 12 million a year and (roughly) a further 5 million for each transponder they use.
Try to educate a fool and you become one

fourthwisemonkey

As ZappaRocks points out......nobody (possibly not even SES-ASTRA) knows what size dish will be needed for UK Spot beam reception in the Canaries (also in the past it actually varied between the islands). Whilst the newer beam shaping technology on the 2F bird will possibly result in a tighter beam this bird is also a higher power than 2D was (although again this can be reduced if SES-Astra so decide). Speculation on various satellite forums is rife and we will only know more once a 'live' transmission is actually lit up and then expect a deluge of info from all over europe regarding what dishes will be needed.

The BBC/ITV backlink system on 27.5W is meant as just that and it can easily be received in the canaries however it is soft encrypted (BISS) and the encryption is easily beaten at the moment (keys been available since at least January and were actually turned off to make the system FTA during the Olympics). This backlink would effectively mean that the BBC are acting in accordance with the european directive on television if they turned off the encryption. Five is also on this satellite but is encrypted in PowerVu which is an encryption originally developed for US Military so cannot currently be hacked.

Whether the BBC/ITV decide to change the encryption is anyones guess....probably whilst they know not that many are hacking into the system they cannot be bothered with the effort or expense but if the content providers and rights holders (F1, Football etc) decide that enough is enough then BBC/ITV may be forced to 'firm up' the encryption......hopefully for us all though they will not. Although read today of installers on the mainland who are already installing this system all over the place as mainland spain only needs 80cm dish and in some cases only a 60cm.

woe10

I now have ITV 1 HD on my Sky HD box clear as a bell. Yahoo !!!!

woe10


Deso

Quote from: woe10 on November 21, 2012, 19:33:23 PM
I now have ITV 1 HD on my Sky HD box clear as a bell. Yahoo !!!!

What size dish do you have Woe?

I could occasionally get it, albeit somewhat patchy, on a 1.2m dish.

They haven't swapped any channels over to 2F yet so it seems a bit strange that you can suddenly get ITVHD. ???
Regards, Neil
Looking forward to the day I tick the "One way only" box when booking flights to Fuerte. [:)]

satandpcguy

Quote from: ZappaRocks on November 21, 2012, 11:41:08 AMbut since they are also broadcasting near free to air from it's back up satellite receivable on a 1.1m dish they are complying with new EU directives.

Quote from: fourthwisemonkey on November 21, 2012, 12:43:24 PMThis backlink would effectively mean that the BBC are acting in accordance with the european directive on television if they turned off the encryption.
I am intrigued. What new EU Directive, and what are its requirements the BBC must comply with?


potash

BT has reserved two EPG slots on the Sky platform in preparation for the launch of its sports channels. The UK telco has secured rights to Premier League football and Premiership rugby packages, has acquired the placeholders on the pay TV platform, which it has temporarily branded as Sailing 1 and Sailing 2.

BT will rebrand and officially launch the channels next year.

BT confirmed the EPG slots had been secured ahead of the launch. "Sailing 1 and 2 are placeholders for the new BT Sport channel, which will be launching next year," he said. "For test purposes they will be showing sailing, treasure diving and kayaking content."

Meanwhile, BT is reportedly considering launching a third sports channel to broadcast other content including on-demand programmes and one-off pay-per-view events.

BT is expected to base its sports operations in the Olympic Park – with an announcement coming later this month.

Deso

Another update from   http://robssatellitetv.webs.com/astra2f.htm


UPDATE 22/1112 - Astra 2F - It is looking like the "BBC 1 HD" tests (channels named as 8901 and 8911) on 11.023 H, SR 23.000, FEC 2/3, DVB-S2 8PSK, are now on "Astra 2F, readers in Tenerife (2.9 m dish) and Bavarian Germany (1.2 m dish) are telling me that they cannot receive this frequency, South Sweden (1.2m dish) is telling me that this frequency has a reduced signal

If anyone wants to try this frequency, particularly if you have a 1.9m dish, could you report back please?   :)
Regards, Neil
Looking forward to the day I tick the "One way only" box when booking flights to Fuerte. [:)]

ZappaRocks

"What new EU Directive"

Sloppy wording on my part it's become a catch phrase for it all, the original directive is of course old though with the recent ruling by the advocate General, which is normally followed, was a part of the reason for that ruling.

"The exclusivity agreement relating to transmission of football matches are contrary to European Union law," she said in her opinion.

"exclusivity rights in question have the effect of partitioning the internal market into quite separate national markets, something which constitutes a serious impairment of the freedom to provide services."

Notice services, not just a single service or possibly one channel. This wasn't considering monopolies or competition but whether it was considered to break the standards of exclusive viewing to one country. In this respect the BBC could keep themselves right if they do run into problems in the future.

It's still open to more cases but it looks like the EU will stick to their guns and will hopefully open up the market for good. It was also mentioned that the expense should not be a barrier either which also makes the BBC changing to Power VU on Intelsat unlikely, if they cared.
Try to educate a fool and you become one

potash



                                    Another update from   http://robssatellitetv.webs.com/astra2f.htm 

It looks like its the end for bbc itv ect on your sky box

  Tenerife - 3.0m dish, just checked today (23rd November) signal for 11.023 H BBC 1 HD at 10.30 and it has since weakened from yesterday,       picture breaks up, not looking good for us here by the looks of it - "Lynda"


Astra 2F Reception Reports for 11.023 H, SR 23.000, FEC 2/3, DVB-S2 8PSK these reports were sent to me 22/11/12 to 24/11/12, latest/newest reports are first/top of the list, I pride myself on being different so it might be best to read these reports from the bottom to the top! LOL!

Very special many Thanks to everyone who have sent me their reports

France, Abusson, 90km east of Limoges - 11.023 H coming in strength 87% and quality 93% on a Sky Zone 1 dish and Mvision HD200 receiver, slightly higher than the Astra 1N signal - "Orbit"

Spain, Costa Blanca, Torrevieja - 1.9m dish, getting the two 11.023 H channels here, 75% snr, no problems - "Richie"

Spain, Barcelona - 1.0m dish, Since last week, 11.023 H was received perfectly when it was on 1N (85% Quality on FOXSAT HDR) now I got 0%. No signal at all !!! - "Jordi"

Denmark, Vejle - ??dish, no reception at all of 11.023 H from 28E satellite today 24.11.2012. - "James"

Austria, Bad Hall - 1.8m dish steerable, regretably I must note that reception of the UK-beam on the new satellite Astra 2F is not possible for me here in Upper Austria with acceptable dish-sizes, I suspect that the reception zone is similar to the one of the former Astra 2D satellite - "Gustav"

Germany, Just west of Bonn - 90cm, just to let you know that I can receive the test transmissions perfectly - "Nicola"

Tenerife - 3.0m dish, just checked today (23rd November) signal for 11.023 H BBC 1 HD at 10.30 and it has since weakened from yesterday, picture breaks up, not looking good for us here by the looks of it - "Lynda"

Switzerland, Bern - ??cm Technisat Multytenne, Astra 2F frequency of 11.023 H works with Technisat Multytenne, signal not so strong, 9.4dB (1N was 10.4dB) - "Benjamin"

Spain Southern, a little inland from Mojacar on the Costa Almeria - 1.25m Gilbertini dish, we have been getting great performance since 1N and 2D was not bad either, I have been monitoring 11.023 H from 2F and it is there but very weak and not lockable on my spectrum on my 1.25 Gibertini dish - "Dave"

Germany NW, Bremen - with a 85cm dish offset by 9 degrees (main LNB to 19.2 east), since yesterday evening the signal on 11.023 H increased to a mid quality, but I have a picture without any obvious abnormality - "Ike" again

Spain, Costa Blanca, Alicante - 1.9m dish, receiving 11.023 H, mighty relieved that 1.9m dishes are not redundant and consigned to being expensive rain catchers! Local sat shops still advertising 1mtr "high tech" dishes - "Graham"

Germany, NRW, 5km south of Düsseldorf - 85cm dish, due to bad weather conditions (It's raining cats and dogs today) my signal quality of 2F 11.023 H is 30-50%, 1N 11.052 H has a signal quality of 50-65% - "Alex"

France, South, Grasse near Nice - 1.0m, I can get 8901 and 8911 on 11.023 H and it is watchable, on my STB the "old" BBC / ITV etc gave 100% for both quality and strength, e.g. 11.126 V. With the 2F signal strength is down at 65% and quality flicking between 99% and 100% - "Malcolm" again

Germany, Bavaria, Munich - 1.5m Gilbertini dish, reception of the 11.023 H on Astra 2F is possible but the signal is much weaker then the others - "Jürgen"

Cyprus, Paphos - ??dish, here in Cyprus we can't receive the BBC 1 HD signal either but then again we couldn't get it off the 2D, we did get ITV HD off the 2D though - "Steve and Ann"

Spain, Costa Blanca, Torrevieja - 1.35m offset dish, just got back and am picking up 8901 and 8911 signals - "Simon"

France South , 60km north of St Tropez - 90cm dish, 11.023 H stayed at SQ 75/60 until 13:30 CET, It then started oscillating between 60/50 and 0/0. Now nothing at 14:00 CET. weather good, must be the effects of the sun on out-of-beam reception.- "Keith" again
Ireland, Dublin - 60cm Oval Sky dish and Sky LNB, Signal Intensity = 90%/Signal quality = 85% - "Sean"

Belgium is perfect "Tom"

Italy, Tuscany - 1.2m dish, no signal on 11.023 H but all Astra 1N frequencies are no problem - "Keir"

Germany NW, Bremen - with a 85cm dish offset by 9 degrees (main LNB to 19.2 east) I barely receive the signal but the scan finds the channels and plays them quite broken. Yesterday evening I had no reception at all - "Ike"

Cyprus, Agglantzia area, Nicosia - 3.8m, no signal but I am trying to verify the receiver used, Sky or Non Sky - "Andreas"

Sweden, Borås 60km west of Göteborg - nothing on 90cm dish but confirmed reception on 2m dish - "Franny" (Greets 2U2)

Spain, Altea, north of Alicante - I have just installed A 1 Mtr Famaval High Gain Dish with an Inverto BLACK ULTRALow Noise 0.2 L.N.B. and here are the results from 11.023 H, Signal Strength 86%/Signal Quality 68-71%, this LNB has a long focal and it is important to spend some time adjusting skew and focal to get this signal on your meter/dish - "Pat" again

France SW, north of Toulouse - 90cm dish and Inverto Black premium 0.2 Quad LNB, at this time (12 noon continental time ) the 2F signal test on 11.023 H broadcating BBC1 HD seems to have improved since yesterday evening, 70% strength versus 56% yesterday and 90% quality versus 81%yesterday - "Jean Louis" again

Spain, Almeria - today the quality is up to 55 % and the picture is rock solid, dish is a Gibertini 1.5 [1.65 in new money!], Invacom C120 quad LNB with modified Hughes feed horn - "Harvey" again

Spain, Malaga - tested a 1.3m Gibertini and have no signal for BBC HD/11.023 H, also a 1.5m - "Carl"

Spain, Valencia - 1.35m dish, 11.023 H Signal strength 100%, Signal Quality 70%, Visual Image Quality 100% - "Frubio"

Spain, Castellón de la Plana near Villareal - 1.2mdish, nothing this morning, no signal, so at the moment it seems that we are back to last year's situation when only evening/night reception was possible with a 1.20m dish - "Héctor" again

Tenerife - 2.4m dish, This morning it works between 5am and 10am but after 10am the signal drops off - "Darren" again

Spain, Costa Blanca - 1.1m dish, Signal being received on 11.023 H as of 10am this morning without break up, weather clear and sunny, Signal Strength is 85%and Signal Quality is 65%  - "Chris"

Spain, Cordoba, 75 miles east of Seville - 1.4m dish, test frequency on 2f not coming in... (30-40%) - "Chris"

Germany South, between Ulm and Augsburg - 1.2m dish, I have a signal power of 50 for a second it jumps up to 99 but no channels, others in my region can pick it up with a dish size 80cm around Ulm and 1.25m in Augsburg - "Richard" again

France South , 60km north of St Tropez - 90cm dish, yesterday during the afternoon the sky became very overcast with a heavy layer of cloud. The 11023H signal disappeared completely, this morning the situation is much improved, I am getting the transponder at 80% strength, 60% quality with good pictures on both feeds - "Keith" again

Germany, NRW, 50km east of Dortmund - 85cm dish, the reception got worse by the hour yesterday, It reached a critical 6.0 db with my Technisat HD S8 receiver at about 8pm, it then started to improve and reached a high of 7.2 db at midnight., this morning it lost it`s strength again and was at 6.2 db, a later I had no reception of both satellites at all - "Tobias" again

Spain, between Alicante and Torevieja - 1.9 dish, checking signal this morning and 8901/8911 stable on 1.9m but not showing on 1.4m Prime focus. changed Inverto Quad LNB for Invacom Quad LNB on the 1.4m and 8901/8911 now coming in. Signal strength dropped a little with Invacom but quality increased, seems to have made the difference. Reports here on local forums seem to indicate 1.0m/1.1m dishes are working but LNB quality is the important factor - "Nick" again

Germany, Bonn - 80cm dish, reception of 8901 and 8911 on 11.023 H is possible - "Peter"

Spain, Costa Blanca - It's a large area, so in the north, say Valencia we are talking of reception on a 1 metre dish, in the south in Torrevieja some 200 kms from Valencia definite reception on a 1.85 metre dish - "Alex" again

Portugal, Eastern Algarve - ??dish, not a hint of the 11.023 H signal here, hope the V sig's will be better - "Trevor"

Germany, Mönchengladbach - 80cm Dish, 100% Strength and 100% Quality on 11.023 H - "Callum"

Sweden SE, very southern tip - ??dish, receiving 11.023 H 57% SNR or 8.77 Db, this is 6 Db lower than Astra 1N but 6 db higher than Astra 2D, looking forward to seeing if we can get the vertical channels as well - "Andy"

Spain, Costa Blanca, Javea - 2.4m polish steel dish and invacom twin, quality improved from 76/77 to 81/82 - "Pete"

Spain, Costa Blanca, Torrevieja - 1.35m dish and Inverto Ultra single LNB, I can get 11.023 H, the signal is not strong but is providing a stable service - "Mike"

Spain, Mallorca, Palma - 1.65m working - "Darren"

France Central, 150kms south of Paris/70kms east of Orleans - ??dish  Visiosat, receive perfectly here - "Jacques"

Spain, Costa Blanca, Javea - Some parts of CB that I have tested inland from the coast (XATIVA etc) are getting a weak but stable signal on a high quality 1m dish with either a SMART TITANIUM or Inverto black ultra LNB - "UKTV CB"

Italy, Naples - 2.0m PF, I just checked 11.023 H, very grim situation, compared to the adjacent 1N carriers, the signal is 7.5 dB lower. I can receive the 1N channels with a 1.8 dB link margin with a prime focus 2 meter dish - "Peter"

Spain, Costa Calida, Murcia/Cartagena - 1.8m and 1.35m dishes, receiving 11.023 H OK here clear skies, although on the 1.35m the signal quality is very low but it is not affecting picture or sound - "Jim"

Portugal South - 1.5m dish, Astra 2F is OFF - "Jose"

Spain, Costa Blanca, Alicante - 2.4m Famaval dish, 11.023 H has a very reduced signal to any of the transponders on 1N however I have a perfect signal on this frequency but looking on spectrum analyzer its a lot smaller spike than anything on 1N. I see also that 11.023 H is not viewable on a 1.1m offset here but 1N is perfect signal on all transponders, but pixalates on 11.023 H on a 1.45m Famaval dish - "Martin"

France, South, Grasse near Nice - 1.0m, 11.023 H S58%/Q00%, on Astra 1N S73%/Q77%, - "Malcolm"

Italy, Venice - 90cm, no signal on 11.023 H, yes with Astra 1N - "Fabiano"

Spain, Costa Blanca, Javea - 1.35m Offset, 1.4m Offset, 145m P/Focus, and obviously our 1.9 & 2.4m dishes - "UKTV CB"

Spain, Costa Blanca - 1.4m Famaval dish, I am receiving the signal fine, low signal but no break up yet - "Nigel"

Spain, Altea, north of Alicante - 1.2m dish, I am getting all tests from the new satellite, Signal 83% Quality 27% - "Pat"

Southern Finland - 2.4m dish with Invacom LNB, 11.023 H, nothing, absolutely nowt! - "Karl"

Cyprus, between Limassol and Paphos - ?? dish, no signal as of yet - "Rick"

Spain North, San Sebastian - 88cm Triax, no signal on 11.023 H - "Josh"

France SW, a little south east of Perigueux, between Limoges and Bordeaux - 80cm dish, picking up the two test channels       with Signal Strength 100%/Signal Quality 90% - "Paul"

Spain, Fortuna, Murcia - 1.35m dish, I have just tested the signal with a Best LNB and the signal is fine - "Lloyd"

Germany, 20km east of Hamburg - 90cm dish, no signal on 11.023 H, on Astra 1N i have 92% strength - "Kim Alexander"
On Astra 1N i have 92% Signal strength.

Spain, Costa Blanca, Alicante - 1.0m dish, I can receive perfect signal on a 1m dish - "Larry"

The Netherlands, Eindhoven - 45cm Technisat Multytenne dish , test transmissions on 11.023 H are comimg in perfect, in fact it is BETTER (5%) than from 1N - "David"

Spain, Costa Blanca, Alicante - 1.0m dish, 68S/78Q, it is a little low, cant see me picking this up after 7.30pm - "Simon"

Tenerife, West - 2.4m dish, no signal on 11.023 H, signal still strong on Astra 1N - "Tom"

Spain, Castellón de la Plana near Villareal - 1.2m, I get 11.023 H after having to adjust my dish - "Héctor" again

Portugal, 80km north of Lisbon - 90cm, no signal on 11.023 H - "Paulo"

Spain, between Alicante and Torevieja - 1.9 dish, bringing in 11.023 H with no problem, not breaking up. no signal on 1.4m dish, the same 1.4m dish bringing in all Astra 1N with no problem - "Nick"
On 1.4m dish- No Signal.

France SW, north of Toulouse - 90cm dish, this signal is weaker than the normal 10.847 V BBC 1 HD signal - "Jean Louis"

Spain, Costa Blanca, Torrevieja Area - 1.0 m dish, no reception of 11.023H BBC 1 HD tests - "Alex" again

Spain, Almeria - 1.5m dish, I am getting 40% quality on 11.023 H, the picture is occasionally breaking up - "Harvey"

Spain, Costa Blanca, Torrevieja Area - 1.85m dish, no trouble for me here with the 11.023H BBC 1 HD tests - "Alex"

Spain, Costa Blanca, Torrevieja Area - 1.9m dish, I am receiving Channels 8901 and 8911 - "Rob" (not "The Rob"!)

France South, 50 km NE of Toulouse - 78cm triax dish, I receive 11.023H with 65%, 10.847 V at 73% - "Ben"

Spain, Costa Blanca, a little south of Alicante - 2.3m Famaval dish, getting 100% signal quality, perfect!! - "Noel"

Germany, SW, Heidelberg - Selfsat HD30 dish, 11.023 H with 84/60 (S/Q) compared with 10.847 V with 84/84 (S/Q) - Daniel

Germany, NRW, 50km east of Dortmund - 85cm dish, signal strength 8.1 dB (2F) instead of 9.8 db (1N) - "Tobias"

Spain, Costa Blanca - 85cm dish, he 2 x test channels for BBC 1 HD I am getting here - "Andy"

Portugal, Porto - 1.2m dish, this frequency has a reduced signal from Astra 1N - "Pedro"

France South , 60km north of St Tropez - 90cm dish, no consistent signal, picture breaking up - "Keith"

Sweden, Kristianstad, north east of Malmo - 1.20m dish, weaker than Astra 1N - "Jan"

THIS IS PURELY AN ASTRA 2F PAGE, EVERYTHING ELSE "

potash



Another update from   http://robssatellitetv.webs.com/astra2f.htm 


It is looking bleak for fue 1.9 dish owners

Astra 2F Reception Reports for 11.023 H, SR 23.000, FEC 2/3, DVB-S2 8PSK from reception reports that have been sent to me, the latest/newest reports are first/top of the list. I pride myself on being different so it is best to read these reports from the bottom to the top! LOL!

Very special many Thanks to everyone who have sent me their reports, I am trying to reply!

Norway, Bergen - 80cm dish, moved my dish, S80%/Q60%, signal very marginal, need a bigger dish - "William"

Spain, Murcia, Los Alcazares - 1.9m dish, S90/Q100, no picture break up - "Terry"

Portugal, Lisbon - 1.0 dish, no signal - "Roiserra"

potash

Please can any one with a 1.9 dish send Rob a report .

Hi John

Sorry for the delay replying

Many thanks, very much appreciated

Anyone there in Fuertaventura get this 11.023 H test?

I have had only one report from Tenerife and that was only at a brief time

Best regards

Rob



robssatellitetv@yahoo.com


















Deso

Quote from: potash on November 26, 2012, 19:52:59 PM
Please can any one with a 1.9 dish send Rob a report .

Hi John

Sorry for the delay replying

Many thanks, very much appreciated

Anyone there in Fuertaventura get this 11.023 H test?

I have had only one report from Tenerife and that was only at a brief time

Best regards

Rob



robssatellitetv@yahoo.com

You can't get this frequency on a Sky Box, it would have to be searched for with a 'proper' satellite receiver box which can be set to look for any frequency that is being broadcast by these satellites.

Someone with a 3.7 dish on Fuerte has reported no signal although judging by reports from Tenerife below,they may need to get their alignment checked.


'Laminas 2.7m
Invacom Flange LNB

Signal fluctates over night, signal gone certain time of day, no guarantees.

As soon as it rains signal is gone, on the limit.'
Regards, Neil
Looking forward to the day I tick the "One way only" box when booking flights to Fuerte. [:)]

potash

Desco any chance of getting a honest reading on the F2 signal in fue ?

Deso

I'm over on 8th December so will be trying to get all necessary info.
I'm hoping they will have moved things from 1N over by then, although there is talk that 2B is being moved over as well.
Regards, Neil
Looking forward to the day I tick the "One way only" box when booking flights to Fuerte. [:)]


Deso

Regards, Neil
Looking forward to the day I tick the "One way only" box when booking flights to Fuerte. [:)]