Fuerteventura Forum

I have tried them all over the years had a sky box then went to UKTV then changed to Europa but although it started cheap its now 50 euros a month for the basic package!

I have bought a new villa and will be looking for the cheapest way to get internet and UK TV in Nov this year

I see there are some very informative people on hear nowadys so just thought I would ask the question

Thanks

Sarah

Hi Sarah. There are a growing number of people on the Island buying Android boxes, there are dozens of makes available, some can be found on Amazon. I am currently watching a cricket match on Sky Sports 2, no interference, and it costs nothing to watch. It's not quite as straight forward as watching an IPTV system, but there is plenty of help at hand on forums. Your only cost would be buying the box and paying for an Internet system, maybe something for you to investigate.

Hi Sarah

We moved from Europe to zk tv a year ago and I have to say the service has been excellent.  We have all the TV channels you could want plus radio,  we also have catch up and films and TV series. If you want contact details pm me.

Cheers

Lulabell

I've used many systems in my home, some good some dire.  I now use the Mag 254 IPTV box, you can get access to as many or as few channels as you want, personally I go for the free to air channels as there are plenty of them and it's really cheap too  :) 

ZKTV for me, excellent service!

Don't even think about paying subscriptions for Sky, dishes or other boxes.

With the internet ( I have 6 mb ) and an Android TV box running KODI / XBMC, which is FREE, you will receive almost every TV channel in the world, including all Sky, BT, Setanta, All the latest films, some before they go on general release.

Look on Ebay or Amazon for the best deals. Pre-loaded with everything. After buying the box, all you pay is your monthly internet fee.

Tip: Don't buy the cheapest, go for quad core minimum. Around 60 quid.   

You can also install KODI /XBMC on your laptop for FREE.

Ok thanks to everyone for their help

I am going to try one of these andriod boxes will buy on now and try in the UK

So 2 final questions do I need a smart TV

And last time I tried to watch ITV over in fuerte it would not let me as not in the uk so do I need to block my IP address with an andriod system

Hi Sarah, in answer to your questions, no you don't need a Smart TV. As for a VPN, in the UK you probably won't need one, and even over here it's not essential but it would give you more scope. There are several on the market ranging from £20 per year upwards. The important thing is to buy a box that is already loaded with Kodi / XBMC, most of the boxes sold on the likes of Amazon are. When you arrive over here to live I can advise you on the best 'Add-ons', there are over 2000, although a lot are not in English, and it depends what kind of programs you like to watch. Boxes ? Well the MX range are good, I paid a bit more and bought a Rippl box, it's more powerful. Hope I've helped you to decide.

I bought the Droidbox, after Woe recommended it, and it's great. No charge to use and I don't need a VPN unless I want to download from Iplayer.
I take mine back to UK as well, as it's so good.
Just watched F1 gp live, and the US Open. Also Jurassic World.
Everything you need with just an internet line and a piece of cake to use. ;D

Droidbox.co.uk

On offer for less than £60

A bit more expensive...but Minix is a good make

Still better value to buy an Android box. No monthly subscriptions....

I'm beginning to think that IPTV companies think that they are a law unto themselves. Is it legal to screen newly released films, or US TV Series that haven't yet been released outside the US. Also do they pay the BBC license fee for every one of their customers. After all this, and the availability of Sky Sports and Movies on IPTV, seems to be Sky's reason for restricting viewing outside the UK.

TerryM...a point i did raise regarding the game of thrones etc.......naughty me I may have got the hooky first 4 episodes from a dubious torrent....unlike a certain iptv company who streamed them which must be legal because clients pay a subscription unlike you naughty android people.
We all know that if you do not have a subscription to a pay tv provider then it is illegal to view their subscription channels whether it be card share, torrents, streaming via android or even streaming direct from iptv head end servers.

The time and money SKY etc spend on improving encryption and trying to stop illegal card sharing is vast. Up to a point it is proving successful as well (hence not much chance of HD on a card share) I would bet that once they have clamped down on the card sharing then the illegal iptv will be next. Commercial enterprises in europe being the likely early targets as easier to find than individuals in russia, china and the middle east.

IPTV has its place but it is not the ONLY solution which is the point that surrepticiously seems to keep being made here >:(

There will always be a way to get the TV you want....its just how much you want to work at it or pay others to do the work for you. If anything things are getting easier with android and XBMC/Kodi than they have ever been. Getting to the point where soon any idiot will be able to do it :) :) :) :)

Organised crime did very well out of re-broadcasting UK TV on the Spanish mainland.  It would not surprise me if they are now involved in IPTV.

So you are rebroadcasting illegally, just proud of the fact that you may be less likely to be caught because of Swiss privacy laws?

I don't have a TV in Fuerte so have no axe to grind, but if I were to change, I think I would rather buy a clean Android box anonymously and download the software myself, rather than pay a subscription and give my banking details and email address to a third party.
It may be that this information is safe from the CIA and other law enforcement agencies at present, but who knows what may happen in the future? Switzerland may rule that this activity is legal, but that doesn't mean the US, UK and EU authorities agree.
Has anyone checked that the terms and conditions of the agreements between Virginmedia, the Swiss cable companies, and their clients permit commercial rebroadcasting?

Well, at least all this cloak and dagger stuff is out in the open now, deceit is never a good path to take. I can't understand why ZKTV don't advertise like Sky, Virgin Media, BT, etc., or maybe there is some hidden embarrassment they don't want to come to light.
The secretive Swiss Banking system eventually broke down through new legislation in 2009.

If it is all legal and above board, why are you promoting the fact that personal details can be kept secret, even to the extent of buying a box number?
And no answer on whether your contracts include the right to rebroadcast for commercial gain.  You certainly cannot do that in the UK - for instance, Sky contracts stipulate for ppersonal use only, even pubs have to have a special licence.

LiviaAltmann is scare-mongering about the police and credit cards. ( I wonder why )

There is nothing illegal with an Android box running XBMC/KODI . No credit cards involved, no subscriptions involved. The only subscription I make is to a VPN ( I use Tunnel Bear ). The only time I use that, is for ITV Catchup to watch Corrie and Emmerdale on ITV Player, and NBC Sports, when the football season is on, as they show ALL the Saturday afternoon games. It's not compulsary to have a VPN for other stuff. You buy the box, it's yours forever.

You don't even need to have an Android Box. You can download KODI to your laptop and connect via HDMI to your TV. ( http://kodi.tv/download/ )

Below is a sample of EVERY series with EVERY episode, FREE. No VPN needed. I'm halfway through"Orange is the New Black" on Netflix, Fantastic. The other night I watched "Focus" with Will Smith, brilliant.

 Hi woe10, thanks for all the info. on the Android box. On Amazon they have a few with the requirements you suggest. About £60 - ish. Does it matter which Make? :-\  8)

LiviaAltmann.
I haven't been to the UK for a few years so I've no idea how the system works there, although I have asked visitors to bring Android boxes over recently, with no problems, and paying with a Spanish Bank card. Your advice about ensuring that Kodi/XBMC is fully loaded, and paying for the box in cash, is good advice.
I do think your comments about Sky UK is scaremongering, at the moment nobody knows how things will pan out, unless of course you are a director Of Sky.

Can't see any posts from LiviaAltman.  Has Livia autodestructed? 

Quote from: Stone Free on June 27, 2015, 18:54:08 PM
Can't see any posts from LiviaAltman.  Has Livia autodestructed?

Profile seems to have vanished as well, Mmmm

LiviaAltman. i am sure was zktv in disguise

Quote from: potash on June 28, 2015, 11:17:44 AM
LiviaAltman. i am sure was zktv in disguise

Correct  :D

Quote from: Ole Man River on June 27, 2015, 15:46:09 PM
Hi woe10, thanks for all the info. on the Android box. On Amazon they have a few with the requirements you suggest. About £60 - ish. Does it matter which Make? :-\  8)

I would say that the make didn't matter. They mostly all have the same specs.

I got mine direct from droidbox.co.uk  fully loaded, model T8. Free next-day delivery. ( a friend brought it over ) They also have a forum where members discuss any problems and latest updates etc. Most addons update automatically, so you're always getting the latest films etc (but you can turn this off ). They have an update tab called Droidbox Wizard where you can update all the latest developements as they come out.

Checkout the website.

Thanks again! 8)

Isn't it nice and peaceful on this thread now.

I do have a TV in Fuerte and have used all systems including dish/UKTV/android/ZKTV and I must say that the best of the lot has been ZKTV. Paul of ZKTV chased problems with telefonica and also pointed me in the direction of getting a free mobile phone and free phone calls and cheap calls back to the UK. Different people have different needs, some are not so technology competent as others and need more help. My language skills are not good enough to deal with the problems I had with telefonica and ZKTV handled these for me.

New people on the forum, may not now be so lucky in being directed towards ZKTV and have to follow the route of other members who used trial in error to find a service which suited them. I remember when there was very little choice of UK television fortunately that has changed. To be happy that one representative of one service is apparently banned seems myopic, as the more options for people to choose from is a good thing.

Quote from: PHo on June 29, 2015, 08:57:58 AM
Isn't it nice and peaceful on this thread now.

Agreed

There's also a sigh of relief on the Tenerife forum where LiviaAltman went under the name of TVs (profile now deleted) and had been banned before that under a different username.

Livia Altman is a Swiss ice hockey player very famous over there,
It took a long time for people to realise she was ZKTV.
Android box is they way to go I have one here and one in the UK best and cheapest solution.

Good riddance to ZKTV. Problem was they thought this section belonged to them. Did they pay?

I think a while back i responded to one of the posts asking how the ice hockey was going......unusually no reply to that one.
My main gripes with this poster was the selective information that was posted which was always designed to say that everything else was wrong and their system was the only way forward. Those who have the system I hope all works well for you and should anyone post asking for info (which will tend to be the less technically savvy) they will now get a choice of personal recommendations. Nothing to stop someone PMíng with Paul/Livia/Thor/TVtenerife/??? mobile number. (no point trying to contact ZKTV office direct as this looks to me like a shared office in a building in Zurich (at least the address on the webpage/blog comes up as that. I would have thought someone with direct contracts with Zurich Kabel TV and Virgin etc would have a higher profile but what do I know.

The taking over of threads and providing mis-leading information (some facts and a lot of speculation) by whoever promotes this system was not limited to just this forum although they lasted a bit longer here than the countless others where I have found them under various guises. Did actually compare info given on a couple of different forums (prior to the posts being deleted and they must be one hell of a network as they appeared to have the servers in Zurich and also head end equipment located in the telefonica central exchange in Madrid and somewhere else. They should just be honest and sell the system as what it is (paying to advertise naturally). Receiving pay TV services without the appropriate contract with the service provider is illegal as is the viewing of copyrighted material without the owners consent (movies series etc) Just about everybody knows this and it is our choice whether we do it with its (admittedley slim) risks. The method is irrelevent, card share, download, kodi/xbmc/streams/torrents etc etc etc.

Ok will get off my high horse now especially as have probably tried/still using most of the above :o

The future is XBMC / KODI on Android Box or Laptop. Free, No contract, No subs.

BBC 1 tonight, Women's World Cup Semi-Final, England v Japan  8)

Quote from: woe10 on July 01, 2015, 19:33:31 PM
The future is XBMC / KODI on Android Box or Laptop. Free, No contract, No subs.

BBC 1 tonight, Women's World Cup Semi-Final, England v Japan  8)

Do you need a VPN connection to watch Live TV using an android box?

No, you don't need a VPN to watch live TV on an android box. However if you want to watch the BBC, ITV etc. i players you do need one, but there are many available, some at no cost.

So if I wanted to watch live BBC and didn't want to use a VPN service, would I use Filmon which would be presumably installed on the box, or is there another app?

Filmon is one that can be used. Some use IPTV Stalker. And there are other addons that allow most channels to be viewed with little or no buffering.

I thought as I started this I should finish it with an update will also post a new thread if I can!!

Just wanted to say have found a fantastic system from a chap called Peter
Just wanted to say fantastic system I have tried two of these boxes before and could not work either but I could see the potential I now realise that its the way the box is programmed that's important and Peter has done a fantastic job and set our's up for us as simple as possible and we can both now work it with no problem so well done Peter great system an one needs a reference send them my way

Tried to paste his add here but cant work out how to so email me if you want his details

In fairness to ZKTV, it is an effective and easy to use system.

What grinds my gears is the numerous accounts they've set up on here in order to hold 'pretend conversations' promoting and advocating the service. It's sneaky. I don't like or trust people that prove themselves to be sneaks.

As regards the legality of it - if they are genuinely Swiss then they have a different set of laws - basically any unencryted free to air TV service that can be received in Switzerland, can be redistributed legally - there is an App called Zattoo that does exactly this, repackaging UK, French, German and Italian TV in to one single streaming TV App, all perfectly legit. In fact it's available on the Swiss Appstore.

So the core ZKTV package probably was legal initially.

Today though, with all of the other nefarious add-ons they're now offering, poor quality stolen movies, dodgy sports streams etc, it's certainly now guilty of multiple cases of copyright theft.

I have a ZKTV subscription, I won't be renewing, mostly because the illegality of their dodgy add-on services means they could get shut-down any minute. You might wish to consider that before you sign up to the annual contracts they are now pushing - because I'd be fairly certain there won't be any refunds if they do ever get busted.

That and their sneaky sales tactics on here, means I no longer find them a worthy recipient of my hard-earned.

If you want to know more about some alternatives, www.eyeondemand.com is an excellence source of streaming TV related knowledge.

Cheers

From

http://www.a516digital.com/2014/02/what-are-legal-alternatives-to-get-uk.html

"In Switzerland, it's legal to retransmit services that can be received via satellite overspill, as long as rights holders are compensated.

Some IPTV operators based in Switzerland have taken advantage of this rule to relay services back out of Switzerland, but this is an area of legal contention, especially when the broadcasts are transmitted back in to the EU, where broadcasters must provide permission for such retransmissions as per a recent court ruling. 

Rogue operators which retransmit Swiss cable TV via the internet, often with websites that highlight the legality of receiving British TV in Switzerland, fail to mention that such retransmission of services falls foul of the terms and conditions of the cable operators. 

While copyright/royalty fees are being paid by the cable operator on the basis of domestic users accessing the service, unauthorised retransmissions are not covered. Services are thus accessed at a user's own risk and may be closed down without notice."

Could it maybe just be that some people like myself are just happy with the service ZKTV provide? As I have said before I have no connection with ZKTV whatsoever, I am just happy that they solved a problem for me. If anybody doesn't believe me please PM me and I will send them my payMent slip for the next 3 months.
I want to be able to watch my TV, not play with it!  Many of the other systems from what I understand require a lot of faffing about - if someone can prove otherwise then I will be delighted to know about them and perhaps they can post  on here how these systems are used. I would much rather not pay out â,¬20 a month for TV but at the moment it's the best option for me. But if someone can point to another system that I can simply switch in my TV, press '1' and get BBC1 then let me know. Oh, and I also want catchup TV as well because most if the time we use this facility on ZKTV.
I don't know the legalities of it all but as a license payer in the UK I don't think I am doing anything illegal, and if the service is cut for any reason, the most I will ever lose is the 3 months payments. There are other IPTV systems being offered and I can't comment on how good these are although I have heard good things. Some of them however do require a full 1 years advance payment, With ZKTV I only pay 3 months.
The other thing I like is that if you are not using the service for a full month, they will switch if off for you and extend it for another month at the end.

I am reading this thread with interest, moving forward with our property purchase so telephone / broadband / TV on the list to sort but not a priority

What I find annoying is that having paid our TV licence and Sky subscription in the UK if we are over on Fuerteventura we can't be using our UK TV's so why can't you use an account such as Sky Go anywhere, with technology today they should be able to see you are not using your UK equipment, to simple I suspect ;D 

Our next door neighbour who comes over 2/3 times a year is in a similar situation to you. She uses Sky Go over here, but has to use a VPN to disguise where she is. The one she uses is 'Tunnelbear', it's simple to install and use, I use it myself. The cost is minimal, it can either be free with limitations, or if you go for the premium package with no holds barred the cost is about £3 per month (you pay 50 US dollars yearly ). My neighbour uses a tablet to access the TV.

Thanks Terry M, I have already researched and download 'TunnelBear' to try when we are next out on the Island and will upgrade to get the better service if it works ok.

I have also invested in a Microsoft Wireless Display Adapter V2 for displaying image on the TV from my Laptop without all the hassle of trailing leads.

I will keep you posted.

I us Tunnel Bear for ITV Hub and Sky Go. It works fine.

Quote from: woe10 on March 24, 2016, 23:07:40 PM
I us Tunnel Bear for ITV Hub and Sky Go. It works fine.

What download speed do you have Woe?