President Of Fuerteventura Denounces Police Radar Trap Over-Kill

[falkirkdan]

First of all to Andi I have not been stopped yet in fuerty and suppose this year as hardly used the car.  The boy racer car had enough problem on the track down to El Cal without shaking myself to bits on other roads.

If a driver has passed their driving test and have a licence there is no need to tell them approaching every bend that there is a new speed limit for the bend and again when out the bend the speed limit is changed.   It is just a way for the thieving Guarda to rob us by sitting there and handing out tickets for cash.

All these signs are just confusing and distracting, you spend more time watching speedometer than the road.

If I ever get a ticket in the post for Fuerty it will not be paid and will be the islands loss as I will not be back for sure.  So Mr President go for the over sealious Guarda.

[andi]

Sorry you've had an uncharacteristic sense of humour failure.........I'll not go on any longer about the actual experiences of driving here within the laws. It's obviously not the main interest of the thread, I can now see that.

[dandare]

But Falkirkdan
If they know your true address, they can pursue you (and force you to pay)  anywhere in the EU

[Spike On Q]

My mate has just got a job as a debt collector in the UK - he used to be a wrestler!!

[whoopy doo]

We visit the island quite a lot and always hire a car.
Silly question to raise really as when driving a hired car that is obviously not registered to yourself, does the hire company get the bill sent to them I assume a photo of car and time etc, would come with the letter of notifiocation do they swallow the fine or as they always have your credit card details when hiring do they at some stage take funds from your card

[woe10]

The Police can get all the details they need about you from the Hire company. They have ways and means, and if you don't pay, they have your credit card details. If you don't pay, it just keeps going up and up. 

[woe10]

Same here andi - car and bike, about 30,000 kilometers a year- NO tickets [my wife had one for crossing a solid white line]

Talking about crossing solid white lines. There're are a lot of people parking the wrong way on the roads, especially in Caleta. Not illegal as such, but notice how many have crossed a solid white line in order to do so. Illegal, they've got you. 

I got stopped for doing a U-turn in Lanzarote across a solid line. Before he could say anything though, I waffled on about looking for Ikea, and that I was lost. After he told me where it was, he let me go with a warning.

[whoopy doo]

Woe, so if i am right in thinking of what i said and your reply. It is the hire company that will receive the notification, as they can check their records for who was hiring at that time. Is it the hiring company that will just take an extra charge from one's credit card from the records that they already have or the police. One would not know beforehand as the individual would not have been notified, maybe it would be the insurance company having to appeal on one's behalf after finding a large amount of money being charged on your card. If one is aware of going through a speed trap then maybe the best solution would be cancelling your card once returning to the UK

[woe10]

Not sure who you receive notice from, as I've never had one. ( I live here ). Maybe somebody else can answer that one, but rest assured, they'll get you. 

[KWC]

The hire company would be breaking the law if the plundered your credit card to pay another organisation. There is no contract between you and the police so therefore not allowed.
Now if you damage the car etc, then the hire company will bill you from your card, as part of the contract or business between you.

All they are obliged to do legally, when asked is supply the name if the car hirer.

[zedzedeleven]

My summons came from Madrid. No doubt the Fuerte police have A.N.P.R like their U.K. counterparts. When the car comes up as registered to a hire car company then that company will be legally required to disclose who hired it. Again, just like in the U.K. If you lent your car to someone who got caught by a camera you would get the summons and have to tell the police who was driving. If you didn`t, and took the points for your friend, you might get prosecuted for perverting the course of justice. Remember the M.P.`s wife not so long ago, she went to prison for doing exactly that. So, others on the other thread who have far more experience than me wouldn`t pay it and I was very tempted to ignore it but the amount was trivial and so I coughed up. My main objection to the speeding pogrom is as Spike has kindly demonstrated with his table, it`s all about entrapment and revenue generation, nothing to do with the safety of road users.

[RVEEE]

My summons came from Madrid. No doubt the Fuerte police have A.N.P.R like their U.K. counterparts. When the car comes up as registered to a hire car company then that company will be legally required to disclose who hired it. Again, just like in the U.K. If you lent your car to someone who got caught by a camera you would get the summons and have to tell the police who was driving. If you didn`t, and took the points for your friend, you might get prosecuted for perverting the course of justice. Remember the M.P.`s wife not so long ago, she went to prison for doing exactly that. So, others on the other thread who have far more experience than me wouldn`t pay it and I was very tempted to ignore it but the amount was trivial and so I coughed up. My main objection to the speeding pogrom is as Spike has kindly demonstrated with his table, it`s all about entrapment and revenue generation, nothing to do with the safety of road users.

I've noticed a big improvement in driving standards recently on the island. Much less crazy overtaking, the traffic generally travelling at the speed limit. Previously you could never tell what the speed limit was by following the vehicle in front.

In my (worthless) opinion, the increased enforcement has had a huge effect. It would be interesting to find some actual stats on serious injury/fatal collisions - the numbers of minor bumps are too easily falsified by 'adjusting' recording criteria by people with vested interests.

[zedzedeleven]

Quote rveee < In my (worthless) opinion >
and that is just what it is. A police car parked in full view on a straight stretch of road with an officer pointing a radar gun at oncoming traffic will get a universal result. A police car hidden out of sight clicking away unobserved will do nothing to slow down offenders. Not that I subscribe to the view that speed is a bigger problem than poor driving. or that one speed limit rapidly followed by another and another is safer than removing all but the lowest one. After all, how can it be "safe" to travel at 90kph when inches away it isn`t?

[Deso]

DON'T SPEED advert spoof !