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Title: I've an empty Luton van returning to the UK around mid April 2017...
Post by: mangleman on February 12, 2017, 15:58:38 PM
My wife and I are moving to Tiscamanita, Fuertevantura in the next few months. We've brought a 2013 Citroen Relay Luton van (3.5t gross Wt) to do the run with down to Cadiz and over to Arrecife then Playa Blanca to Correlejo ferries...   The reason we're doing it ourselves is I'm bringing my motorcycle, lots of tools and a lot of music equipment and other personal Items unavailable to buy on the Canaries accrued over my 55 years on this planet. Oh! and also Woodside Cargo wanted too much money to ship my stuff and using them there was going to be a lot of p***ing about too.  So... Once here on the island and all our stuff has been unloaded into our house, I'm going to have an empty van that I've got to drive back to the UK and then sell on for what I brought it for. So (I'm getting to the point!) Will any one (obviously for some cost) want me to take back stuff to the UK around mid April, so I can recoup some of my round trip journey costs (I'm flexable on this date as I will be booking an open return on the Cadiz-Arrecife ferry). I will be driving all the way up to Blackpool once in the UK, so I can divert anywhere in England and Wales on route to drop stuff off. Providing I stay below 3.5t gross weight, anything (legal and legit) will be considered. The rear volume or the van is 19.25 cubic metres. If someone wants me to move them lock stock and barrel back to the UK (for â,¬1,300 all in) let me know (I know for a fact I'll be cheaper than Woodside Cargo!)...
Title: Re: I've an empty Luton van returning to the UK around mid April 2017...
Post by: emmi on February 12, 2017, 17:34:22 PM
Of course, you will be cheaper than Woodside Cargo, because you don't have the overheads that they have.  They are highly regarded here and do a very professional job and are trustworthy.  I have no connection with them, but have had items brought over by them and cannot recommend them highly enough. Good luck .
Title: Re: I've an empty Luton van returning to the UK around mid April 2017...
Post by: blata on February 12, 2017, 18:54:45 PM
Bit close to the mark there, Woodside are more expensive but you are paying for a service, always been good for us. Would highly reccomend.
Title: Re: I've an empty Luton van returning to the UK around mid April 2017...
Post by: caza on February 12, 2017, 20:43:30 PM
Sorry ,
But people have freedom of speech. Etc ,

The OP was just saying that he found his quote expensive for his needs .
Title: Re: I've an empty Luton van returning to the UK around mid April 2017...
Post by: Deso on February 12, 2017, 21:25:31 PM
Yes, but the OP did rather labour the point about one company rather than just saying it was cheaper to do it themselves. In particular, the last bracketed sentence, which appeared to want to rub it in even more.

Title: Re: I've an empty Luton van returning to the UK around mid April 2017...
Post by: caza on February 12, 2017, 22:30:43 PM
OP is a newbie !
Give him some slack !

Sometimes old posters can be too harsh etc !

Like I said , he's just expressing his opinion

He is offering a service (return) , cheaper than what he has been quoted  .

He hasn't offended Woodside re there service etc , but said that there quote was more expensive than what he could afford and sort other avenues .

In doing this , he has offered to returned items back to U.K. at a smaller cost ?
Forgive me if I'm wrong !

Thanks for the community spirit ! And welcome OP .


Sorry Deso , I don't agree with what you have said , perhaps he only had a quote from Woodside ?
Title: Re: I've an empty Luton van returning to the UK around mid April 2017...
Post by: woe10 on February 13, 2017, 00:53:52 AM
Are all Customs Clearance/Charges and Insurance included. I know that Woodside is fully licensed for all this. If it's impounded in Cadiz you take the chance of losing the lot.
I remember another company that wasn't licensed having their truck impounded full of people's stuff, and stuck in Lanzarote for 3 months. Don't know what happened to it.
Title: Re: I've an empty Luton van returning to the UK around mid April 2017...
Post by: erik_tonny on February 13, 2017, 08:51:41 AM
Worst part is that he is bringing a lot of noise to our quiet lives. (motorcycle, lots of tools and a lot of music equipment)  >:( >:(
Title: Re: I've an empty Luton van returning to the UK around mid April 2017...
Post by: emmi on February 13, 2017, 09:37:51 AM
QuoteAre all Customs Clearance/Charges and Insurance included. I know that Woodside is fully licensed for all this. If it's impounded in Cadiz you take the chance of losing the lot.
I remember another company that wasn't licensed having their truck impounded full of people's stuff, and stuck in Lanzarote for 3 months. Don't know what happened to it.

Exactly, there's more to taking a van load of stuff out of the Island, than meets the eye.  It is a commercial vehicle full of "stuff" - get a Customs man on a bad day and anything can happen.  I guess at the very least a manifest has to be prepared, insurance etc etc.  and if the goods are not delivered for whatever reason, what come back does the owner of the goods have? Seems risky to me on all sides.
Title: Re: I've an empty Luton van returning to the UK around mid April 2017...
Post by: falkirkdan on February 13, 2017, 10:30:06 AM
You would get a lot of illegal immigrants in that space and make a tidy profit.
Title: Re: I've an empty Luton van returning to the UK around mid April 2017...
Post by: woodside on February 13, 2017, 10:49:00 AM
Quote from: woe10 on February 13, 2017, 00:53:52 AM
Are all Customs Clearance/Charges and Insurance included. I know that Woodside is fully licensed for all this. If it's impounded in Cadiz you take the chance of losing the lot.
I remember another company that wasn't licensed having their truck impounded full of people's stuff, and stuck in Lanzarote for 3 months. Don't know what happened to it.
The other company was Blue Flag and they were coming IN from Cadiz with new furniture and the worldly possessions of someone who had moved here... it was years, not months, that the van and it´s contents were impounded at Arrecife due to incorrect paperwork and lack of Customs requirements (unless you are talking of another one Woe).
The Aduana at Cadiz is very strict and this unauthorised method of transporting effects from the island WILL result in tears... we would strongly recommend that anyone reading this does not entrust these people with their possessions. It is a very big risk!
Yes we are more expensive than anyone else doing overland transport illegally - we pay all overheads to ensure we are legally trading and that costs a lot!
The p***ing about is a necessary documentation trail that has to be submitted into Customs... we at Woodside Cargo would suggest you consider all the impplications and do more research before offering to take other people´s possessions as flippantly as you are suggesting on a route that requires 3 sets of Customs submissions.
When you contacted us and offered your service to take our Clients´ possessions back to the UK in your van, which we had to decline but politely did so, we did not believe that this would warrant your negative comments on a Forum of which we have been a member for over 10 years!!  Freedom of speech is one thing but this is a bit more than ´naughty´ all things considered!
Regards, Annette


Title: Re: I've an empty Luton van returning to the UK around mid April 2017...
Post by: woodside on February 13, 2017, 10:49:49 AM
Quote from: falkirkdan on February 13, 2017, 10:30:06 AM
You would get a lot of illegal immigrants in that space and make a tidy profit.
;D  We could try that... then we could offer discounts and be more competitive  :o
Title: Re: I've an empty Luton van returning to the UK around mid April 2017...
Post by: Chris1965 on February 13, 2017, 15:50:25 PM
Quote from: mangleman on February 12, 2017, 15:58:38 PM
My wife and I are moving to Tiscamanita, Fuertevantura in the next few months. We've brought a 2013 Citroen Relay Luton van (3.5t gross Wt) to do the run with down to Cadiz and over to Arrecife then Playa Blanca to Correlejo ferries...   The reason we're doing it ourselves is I'm bringing my motorcycle, lots of tools and a lot of music equipment and other personal Items unavailable to buy on the Canaries accrued over my 55 years on this planet. Oh! and also Woodside Cargo wanted too much money to ship my stuff and using them there was going to be a lot of p***ing about too.  So... Once here on the island and all our stuff has been unloaded into our house, I'm going to have an empty van that I've got to drive back to the UK and then sell on for what I brought it for. So (I'm getting to the point!) Will any one (obviously for some cost) want me to take back stuff to the UK around mid April, so I can recoup some of my round trip journey costs (I'm flexable on this date as I will be booking an open return on the Cadiz-Arrecife ferry). I will be driving all the way up to Blackpool once in the UK, so I can divert anywhere in England and Wales on route to drop stuff off. Providing I stay below 3.5t gross weight, anything (legal and legit) will be considered. The rear volume or the van is 19.25 cubic metres. If someone wants me to move them lock stock and barrel back to the UK (for â,¬1,300 all in) let me know (I know for a fact I'll be cheaper than Woodside Cargo!)...
Are you insured to take goods back to the UK? If you are advertising a service maybe you should let us know  who your insured with. Can't believe you attack a reputable company on the island where you are going to live - great way to introduce yourself. Woodside Cargo have been giving a GREAT service here for many years, you are not here 2 mins and already criticizing...

Anyway nice to meet you Mangleman, welcome to Fuerteventura. By the way Annette and James are really nice people who happen to run a business here.  I'm sure you are a really nice  man :-)
Title: Re: I've an empty Luton van returning to the UK around mid April 2017...
Post by: gattaca66 on February 13, 2017, 20:20:30 PM
I must admit, I do feel a little sympathy with the OP! Being new to the island he clearly had not realised the broad sense of community, the fact that Woodside are a much-respected part of that community, nor that ideas that seem so simple can get very complicated here! Being charitable, maybe he just saw 'Woodside' as a faceless business, not as Anette and Jim, who most of us know and have entrusted with our worldly goods at one time or another!

I admire a bit of enterprise, and can applaud the spirit behind bringing a van over here and defraying costs by selling space on the return leg....would be great, probably, within the U.K. but we all know the bureaucratic nightmare it could generate here. If the original posting had not 'knocked' Woodside, the OP may have just received friendly and informed advice, maybe he deserves a bit of slack?

Anyway, I say welcome to the island, you will usually get good advice on here, but do have a care when posting on any of the many forums!
Title: Re: I've an empty Luton van returning to the UK around mid April 2017...
Post by: suendrob on February 13, 2017, 21:39:42 PM
Quote from: gattaca66 on February 13, 2017, 20:20:30 PM
I must admit, I do feel a little sympathy with the OP! Being new to the island he clearly had not realised the broad sense of community, the fact that Woodside are a much-respected part of that community, nor that ideas that seem so simple can get very complicated here! Being charitable, maybe he just saw 'Woodside' as a faceless business, not as Anette and Jim, who most of us know and have entrusted with our worldly goods at one time or another!

I admire a bit of enterprise, and can applaud the spirit behind bringing a van over here and defraying costs by selling space on the return leg....would be great, probably, within the U.K. but we all know the bureaucratic nightmare it could generate here. If the original posting had not 'knocked' Woodside, the OP may have just received friendly and informed advice, maybe he deserves a bit of slack?

Anyway, I say welcome to the island, you will usually get good advice on here, but do have a care when posting on any of the many forums!

I agree wholeheartedly. All I know of Woodside is that they seem to be very well thought of locally, and that's good enough for me.
I certainly wouldn't like to mix it with Spanish Customs. Before GB joined the EU, I was involved in exporting comms equipment - industrial and military - the paperwork was horrendous, either for shipping or company's own transport.
With all the extra regulations and BS nowadays, it really wouldn't be a good idea to carry other people's goods.

Might it be different if the owner of the goods travelled in the vehicle, though?
Title: Re: I've an empty Luton van returning to the UK around mid April 2017...
Post by: TheCooler on February 15, 2017, 08:17:50 AM
Mangleman , seeing as your first post wasn't a great success,perhaps your second post should be in the form of a retraction or apology.
Title: Re: I've an empty Luton van returning to the UK around mid April 2017...
Post by: caza on February 15, 2017, 08:49:29 AM
Don't think he'll post on here again , or if he does under a different name .
Title: Re: I've an empty Luton van returning to the UK around mid April 2017...
Post by: Ivemovedon on February 15, 2017, 10:34:37 AM
Oh deary me... another one on here who has tried to help out in slightly the wrong way and been massacred for it. Forum drawbridges winched up and the siege mentality put into top gear as we seek to protect the good name of our own.

mangleman certainly got a mangling.

I've used woodside before and i found them very good at what they do. But does it really warrant the 'outraged from Caleta' attitude? >:(

Way over the top.
Title: Re: I've an empty Luton van returning to the UK around mid April 2017...
Post by: blata on February 15, 2017, 12:43:13 PM
I dont think its an Outraged Attitude and as people have said no one can say he has not made a helpful offer, its just the way it was done
I run a business and I have overheads which must be covered, so do Woodside its the way of the world therefore costs will be higher.
If the initial offer had been made with maybe a reference to removal companies in general not specifically we would have thought , What a good Man bit of an entrepreneur.
Hope he comes back on


Title: Re: I've an empty Luton van returning to the UK around mid April 2017...
Post by: Ivemovedon on February 15, 2017, 12:53:25 PM
It wouldn't be a surprise if he didn't.
Title: Re: I've an empty Luton van returning to the UK around mid April 2017...
Post by: caza on February 15, 2017, 14:27:49 PM
Post 17  Holierspark
I agree.,
Like you said , someone was just trying to help out and offer his services to take a few items back  , he got blasted !!!

I'm sure he didn't understand the legal complications etc .

I hope you post again OP ,

We are normally All friendly
Title: Re: I've an empty Luton van returning to the UK around mid April 2017...
Post by: caza on February 15, 2017, 16:06:56 PM
Speculation! Is never good  :'(
That's how rumours and bad feelings start !

Some posters are very harsh !
Title: Re: I've an empty Luton van returning to the UK around mid April 2017...
Post by: erik_tonny on February 15, 2017, 17:04:18 PM
You're right Caza.
I removed my remark.
Title: Re: I've an empty Luton van returning to the UK around mid April 2017...
Post by: woe10 on February 15, 2017, 17:24:09 PM
Quote from: TheCooler on February 15, 2017, 08:17:50 AM
Mangleman , seeing as your first post wasn't a great success,perhaps your second post should be in the form of a retraction or apology.

No need for an apology. He obviously doesn't know the Canarian Customs like the long term Residents. Everybody learns step by step.
A lot of people don't realize that the Canaries are not a full member of the EU when it comes to stuff like that.
Title: Re: I've an empty Luton van returning to the UK around mid April 2017...
Post by: caza on February 15, 2017, 17:27:41 PM
Thanks for that  Erik,
I know that OP,, said things that he shouldn't !
BUT !!!!
He's a Newbie,
As a newbie you have to find your own feet , and tread carefully , but unfortunately OP went too far , as I have stated before .

I have never used or had the need to use Woodside , but I have heard many good praise for them .

If i do need a shipment over to caleta , I certainly would ask for a quote .

Op obviously wasn't aware that owner posts on this site as has a good following
I believe in freedom of speech and I'm not taking any sides
Title: Re: I've an empty Luton van returning to the UK around mid April 2017...
Post by: Tamkid on February 15, 2017, 19:52:01 PM
Interesting post mangleman, don't be offended, but your reasoning for purchasing a Luton Van over using Woodside is difficult to grasp, if it was for the adventure, fair play. Your fuel, ferry costs, customs charges (You have to no your stuff with the customs) for a return journey, plus the overhead of purchasing a Luton Van, insurance, breakdown cover, security worries etc. and then the hassle of having to resell it to recoup part of your costs????. I could understand it if you purchased a left hand drive van with the intention of attempting to sell that in Fuerter.

It would make for more sense to use a highly reputable firm like Woodside,  (Never used them but have had friends who have, no problems reported), just to save you the hassle and worry, good luck with your move and I hope you prove all us doubters wrong.
Title: Re: I've an empty Luton van returning to the UK around mid April 2017...
Post by: La apanada pair on April 06, 2017, 22:26:44 PM
Hi have you left the UK yet and if not doyou have space on your van to take 2 sun loungers will need picking up from just off jcn 28 M1 and keeping until we get over 2nd week of june..
Title: Re: I've an empty Luton van returning to the UK around mid April 2017...
Post by: woe10 on April 10, 2017, 20:02:00 PM
You can buy sun loungers of all shapes and sizes in Fuerte
Title: Re: I've an empty Luton van returning to the UK around mid April 2017...
Post by: spitfire58 on April 10, 2017, 23:33:13 PM
Quote from: woe10 on April 10, 2017, 20:02:00 PM
You can buy sun loungers of all shapes and sizes in Fuerte

I have checked out the prices & cheaper on Fuerte than in UK. Will be getting a couple when we are out in a few weeks
Title: Re: I've an empty Luton van returning to the UK around mid April 2017...
Post by: La apanada pair on April 11, 2017, 22:34:24 PM
I knw the prices on the islnd looked into it, was looking at a full set tables and chairs plus loungers, only problem is I can't get the matching loungers over there, had given up on the idea when I saw a guy driving over... would of been back to plan A, but guess I missed the van
Title: Re: I've an empty Luton van returning to the UK around mid April 2017...
Post by: MalT on April 13, 2017, 09:19:02 AM
Saw a lounger in ideal in Corralejo yesterday for 59 euros, no covers
Title: Re: I've an empty Luton van returning to the UK around mid April 2017...
Post by: Johnrgby2 on April 13, 2017, 09:22:53 AM
Quote from: MalT on April 13, 2017, 09:19:02 AM
Saw a lounger in ideal in Corralejo yesterday for 59 euros, no covers

We were there Tuesday, padded covers on hanging racks behind the display â,¬49, nearly as much as the loungers ::)
Title: Re: I've an empty Luton van returning to the UK around mid April 2017...
Post by: MalT on April 13, 2017, 13:34:38 PM
Yep, went back today 54 euros and free delivery, we looked at the pads, just too much, the boss is now looking for a more reasonable option 😇
Title: Re: I've an empty Luton van returning to the UK around mid April 2017...
Post by: TamaraEnLaPlaya on April 15, 2017, 02:28:07 AM
The shop on FV1 almost opposite the old bus station had better quality cushions at a lower price, worth a look.