I notice these seem to be a lot of Italian businesses and visitors in correlljo, always found them very friendly, but wondered why here? I can't remember visiting another town outside of Italy that was so popular.😎
There is more working Italians and ones that own business's in Corralejo than locals. I asked the same question to two young Italians I once gave a lift to, they both said Italy was a desparate place to live and work, corruption was rife (Obviously new to Fuerter). A lot of Italians were recruited to work in the Hotels and leisure industry in the early 80's, I am not certain how true the latter is though, just word of mouth.
The Italian government handed out grants to their countrymen starting businesses abroad, so it`s reasonable to suppose the Italian tourists followed on. Not too sure of my facts here but no doubt someone will be along soon to put me right !
Caleta is going the same way ....
Quote from: woe10 on July 27, 2016, 11:46:09 AM
Caleta is going the same way ....
Yes it is, you can always tell they are Italians, they are the ones who are not spending money.
Only half of them, the other half not spending money are French
Make that a third. I've heard the Scots have got long pockets. That just leaves the English and the krauts. But now according to spike we English will all be destitute due to brexit and wont be able to afford a holiday, so that just leaves the krauts. Better stick up a few Bayern Munich scarves to keep your best customers happy. ;)
Don`t forget the Sauerkraut and Bratwurst mit oompah music ;D ;D
Much prefer the Italians to the Krauts and Ruskies. The latter are a breed apart, apparently they cancelled all of their budget flights to Egypt and Turkey because of their jets getting shot down,they are directing their full attention to holidaying in Spain, in particular the Canaries, glad I don't have to run around after them.
Well I forgot about the Russians. They might spend a few roubles its true but from what I saw of them in places like Egypt a few years back I'd sooner have a bunch of Italians with one drink and 5 straws in my bar.
Quote from: Holierthanthou on July 27, 2016, 23:16:08 PM
Well I forgot about the Russians. They might spend a few roubles its true but from what I saw of them in places like Egypt a few years back I'd sooner have a bunch of Italians with one drink and 5 straws in my bar.
The Ruskies succeeded in ruining Cyprus within 5 years of discovering what was a beautiful Island { having said that them joining the EU did not help either}
According to a recent census, Italians were the second most numerous residents of La Oliva after Spanish. British were third, but only two thirds as many as Italians. Nearly half (43.6%) the residents of La Oliva were non Spanish in 2011.
Quote from: whyme on July 27, 2016, 18:40:12 PM
Only half of them, the other half not spending money are French
Not many are French. There's no direct flight from anywhere in France to Fuerte...
Great stuff, lets hope they keep it that way.
Quote from: RVEEE on July 29, 2016, 20:31:42 PM
Quote from: whyme on July 27, 2016, 18:40:12 PM
Only half of them, the other half not spending money are French
Not many are French. There's no direct flight from anywhere in France to Fuerte...
Aena website shows direct flights from Deauville, Strasbourg, Lille,Lyon, Marseille,Nantes, Paris CDG, and Orly operated by a variety of operators..Met and heard a lot of French earlier this month in Correlejo
Maybe they all swim over
I think you will find about a 1000 French tourists in Caleta each week. They mainly stay at the Barcelo and the Carleto all inclusive.They are on the beach and the prom during the day and been coming in growing numbers over the last 3 years but lots more this year.
Along with the Italians in El Cotillo there was a fair smattering of French too. In Corallejo we spoke to the guy running the Chill cocktail bar in the cobbled st and even though he was Italian himself he said they were a pain in the butt and complained about everything. The amount of businesses run by them is extraordinary but we were also told Italians get some sort of national grant to run a business abroad. Why that is or how true it is i don't know.
One thing i do know is that even though their tourists don't spend much, any resort they arrive in will have to up it's game as their expectations are high and if they don't get it they will let you know.. very loudly.
Quote from: RVEEE on July 29, 2016, 20:31:42 PM
Quote from: whyme on July 27, 2016, 18:40:12 PM
Only half of them, the other half not spending money are French
Not many are French. There's no direct flight from anywhere in France to Fuerte...
No idea why you think that, I am due to pick an old friend up from the Airport a little later, and he is coming from Paris, and there is another flight from Paris just after his!
Quote from: Holierthanthou on July 30, 2016, 08:40:26 AM
The amount of businesses run by them is extraordinary but we were also told Italians get some sort of national grant to run a business abroad. Why that is or how true it is i don't know.
We've also heard this, and variations on it, from time to time and a few times I've had a look on the internet to try to discover if it was true. I've never found anything suggesting it is true.
This is one of the recent articles I read and it doesn't mention anything of the sort:
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/04/how-can-italy-reverse-its-brain-drain?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+inside-the-world-economic-forum+(Inside+The+World+Economic+Forum) (https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/04/how-can-italy-reverse-its-brain-drain?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+inside-the-world-economic-forum+(Inside+The+World+Economic+Forum))
I think it is just another rumour/Chinese whisper.
There must be a reason so many Italians are starting businesses there other than the fact they just like the island . Must be some sort of financial incentive to spur them on. Perhaps there's a secret EU fund set up for EU members to start businesses within the Union but they just forgot to tell the UK? ;)
Quote from: Holierthanthou on July 31, 2016, 06:14:27 AM
There must be a reason so many Italians are starting businesses there other than the fact they just like the island . Must be some sort of financial incentive to spur them on. Perhaps there's a secret EU fund set up for EU members to start businesses within the Union but they just forgot to tell the UK? ;)
There must be a similar fund for the Chinese..
It seems life is made easier for them to set up businesses abroad: Here's a quote from a website
"The Services Directive: One-stop shops
The Services Directive is a European law that aims to make life easier for businesses that wish to provide services in the European Union â€" in their home country or abroad. The Directive defines the rules that apply to entrepreneurs wishing to establish a business or perform temporary services in the EU/EEA area (the 27 EU member states, plus Iceland, Liechtenstein and Norway). It obliges member states to eliminate unnecessary bureaucracy, simplify formalities for businesses and make public administrations more efficient.
For the implementation of the Directive, each member state had to set up ‘Points of Single Contact (PSC)`, e-government portals which help businesses complete their administrative procedures on-line. The PSCs provide comprehensive information on all administrative matters related to setting up or expanding a services business in a given country. This includes for example:
Which licences, notifications or permits do I need to obtain to start a business (at home or abroad)?
What do I need to do when I want to offer my services abroad on a temporary basis?
What do I need to do to apply for a licence? Which authority is responsible?
Are the licences subject to a fee? What kinds of deadlines apply?
Which acts and decrees apply in my sector?
What do I need to do to establish, for instance, a restaurant or a shop? Or to work as a tour operator in another country without actually setting up a company?
Where can I turn for personalised advice and further information?"
Here's the full link to the site: http://www.eubusiness.com/europe/italy/homepage/business
I too heard a while back that the Italian government was giving grants for setting up businesses abroad.
Quote from: zedzedeleven on July 27, 2016, 11:22:47 AM
The Italian government handed out grants to their countrymen starting businesses abroad, so it`s reasonable to suppose the Italian tourists followed on. Not too sure of my facts here but no doubt someone will be along soon to put me right !
In the Netherlands 8% of everyones salary (including pensions and social benefits) is withheld each month.
In may/june this money, called holiday money, is payed out.
Thus creating the myth in eg France that the dutch get an extra allowance if they spend their holidays abroard
At a loss to know what benefit it would do Italian society to give grants to set up a business abroad i.e. bar, café, clothes shop etc as in Corralejo.
Quote from: Blueboy7 on July 31, 2016, 10:13:38 AM
At a loss to know what benefit it would do Italian society to give grants to set up a business abroad i.e. bar, café, clothes shop etc as in Corralejo.
It could be that the Italians, like many Eastern Europeans in the UK, send a proportion of their earnings back home to Italy hence propping up the Italian economy and supporting their Italian families.
That's an interesting thought. I also thought about unemployment in Italy. Not sure of the figures but it could marginally help the statistics if it's pretty poor.
Quote from: Holierthanthou on July 31, 2016, 11:56:07 AM
That's an interesting thought. I also thought about unemployment in Italy. Not sure of the figures but it could marginally help the statistics if it's pretty poor.
Its circa 11.5% it was close to 14% end of 2014 early 2015, but seems to be pretty stable at present, this figure is people actively seeking employment, and does not include the sick, lame and lazy.
Spain`s has improved, its now at 20% adult rate and almost 50% youth rate :'(
Italy`s main problem is their banks. They are overloaded with bad debts and seriously under capitalised. The Italian Government is even now trying to get the rules circumvented so that they can throw state money at them. It should come as no suprise that the EU is actively helping them do it. Oh that wonderful `European Project` again :o
Bit off the subject, just watched a great Italian TV series called Gomorra, about the Naples mafia, most of it is based on fact, frightening.
Quote from: Blueboy7 on July 31, 2016, 16:09:59 PM
Bit off the subject, just watched a great Italian TV series called Gomorra, about the Naples mafia, most of it is based on fact, frightening.
Is that the place near Sodom, I thought that was in the middle east somewhere. :D :D
Quote from: Johnrgby2 on July 30, 2016, 09:50:50 AM
No idea why you think that, I am due to pick an old friend up from the Airport a little later, and he is coming from Paris, and there is another flight from Paris just after his!
I know a regular visitor from France, he told me so. I had a quick look at the airport website destinations and couldn't find anything listed...
Now I look again and there's several. It's a strange world.
Quote from: Johnrgby2 on July 27, 2016, 14:15:01 PM
Quote from: woe10 on July 27, 2016, 11:46:09 AM
Caleta is going the same way ....
Yes it is, you can always tell they are Italians, they are the ones who are not spending money.
Haha ive just watched 5 Brazilians in Rio share one 500ml bottle between them watch out you italians they are after your crown Lol
Quote from: Roar of the Rovers on August 05, 2016, 17:55:43 PM
Quote from: Johnrgby2 on July 27, 2016, 14:15:01 PM
Quote from: woe10 on July 27, 2016, 11:46:09 AM
Caleta is going the same way ....
Yes it is, you can always tell they are Italians, they are the ones who are not spending money.
Haha ive just watched 5 Brazilians in Rio share one 500ml bottle between them watch out you italians they are after your crown Lol
Now had they used straws as the Italians do here pour the bottle into a pint glass, add ice sufficient for 10
Got to say no ice or straws just 5small glasses ;D
Showed Ireland v France rugby world cup game a few years ago, it kicked off about 06:30 we had ten Irish tables compared to three French tables. The Irish spent â,¬216 and the French spent â,¬5 that is how to tight they are.
This must be the Italian tourists' way... I remember when we had El Palmeral (who remembers that?!) we would regularly have a large family of them sitting around a table all afternoon with a couple of plates of salad, a bottle of wine & even a bottle of water! Nice family though.