Had an email from friends staying on the golf course to say there has been another break in. What's going on here? Can someone catch these people and quickly. Someone must have seen something it was daylight..... :o :o
Hi Glenys I do hope they catch the culprits, they are desperate people and might be carrying a weapon so don't anyone tackle them.
Call the local police if anyone sees anything suspicious.
There were two breaks ins while I was out there, on Los Arcos and Colina. I understand that they stole passports and money. It is suspected the people that did the break-ins are driving a small white car with sun roof slowly around the golf course on a number of occaisions in a suspicious manner. The registration of the car has been reported to the police but not sure if any arrests have been made.
I read on Facebook that one person was in Court a couple of days ago and that the Police have some of the stolen goods in their possession.
People have been caught in Caleta and Triquivijate.
Let's hope things will get back to normal now. I love Caleta and it makes me really sad that these bad things are happening there. :'(
Sadly Glenys as people become more desperate so they look for alternative sources of cash. The church in Pajara had the collection box [where you put the 1 euro to turn on the lights] stolen recently - now that is bad!
The same is happening in the UK.There are people using their children as decoys while they steal charity boxes.It's absolutely disgusting, most honest people wouldn't resort to this kind of thing no matter how hard up they were.
They are SCUM to steal from anyone. They should have thier hands cut off if they caught!!!!!
Update from Canarias7
Not a great online translation....but you will get the gist. :)
17/12/2012 Updated on 17/12 at 12:39
Two arrested for 11 robberies houses in Fuerteventura
Since the Civil Guard of Great Tarajal, began an investigation to carry out several robberies in homes inhabited Tuineje Pájara and Antigua.
During investigations Civil Guard was found that the perpetrators of these unlawful acts, first performed surveillance to control schedules, once they entered the homes mainly to the procedure of subtracted climb all sorts of effects such as televisions, computers, portable phones , jewelry etc.
Once the Civil Guard identified the suspects, several house searches were conducted with the cooperation of the local police Tuineje, resulting in the arrest of many electronic effects presumably from illegal acts and an approximate valuation to 15,000 euros.
For such events to the arrest of a man and a woman of 23 and 27 years old, on suspicion of a continuing offense of burglary. Civil Guard also managed to seize one of the detainees allegedly five kilos of hashish.
The investigation remains open and further arrests are not ruled out, having been clarified so far 11 robberies in homes. The effects recovered have been returned to their rightful owners once recognized and pending some objects that have not yet been recognized.
The detainees and apprehended effects became available to police courts of Puerto del Rosario.
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If anyone on the Forum has been broken into they should contact the Police to see if any of the stolen articles have been recovered.
(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x469/fifisforumphotos/286083-1g.jpg) Some of the articles recovered can be seen in this photo.
Glad they caught the low lifes. But I hope they don't get off too lightly.
Im a great believer in the Saudi Rules.
Get caught stealing = whipped
Gett caught having sex outwirh marriage = stoned to death.
Get caught masterbating = Hand cut off ;D
Or something like that :-X
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Quote from: fifi on December 15, 2012, 12:46:16 PM
I read on Facebook that one person was in Court a couple of days ago and that the Police have some of the stolen goods in their possession.
Could be the last time they are seen then ???
It is about time the cops and guardia got off their fat arses and stopped hounding tourist motorists and done some real police work.
I do not like driving in Fuerty any longer, as you have to constantly be on your guard for speed traps, entrapment etc etc. There must be more speed limit signs in Fuerty than any where else in the world. You never know what the limit is as can be 90, then goes to 60, then 150mtrs on changes to 70 etc etc, dont have your lights on driving into Corry and they stick you for a fine. I find it more dangerous to drive continually watching your sensible speed and making sure they are not going to jump out onto a crossing just as you approach and then book you for failing to stop. Yes watched them do that in Cotillo opposite the supermarket, although they never seem to do it to the Majaheros in the big 4 x 4 trucks, surprise, surprise!!!
Got to say their actions hounding the tourist and ex pat motorist and their inaction at dealing with crimes is putting me off the island.
Brilliant stuff that Fi,i bet there's tourists/homeowners out there that unfortunately are not on this Forum that would be greatly appreciative of your efforts to help and possibly could own some of the items in that picture too,good work,keep it up dear.... :) :)
Quote from: falkirkdan on December 18, 2012, 23:58:26 PM
Quote from: fifi on December 15, 2012, 12:46:16 PM
I read on Facebook that one person was in Court a couple of days ago and that the Police have some of the stolen goods in their possession.
Could be the last time they are seen then ???
It is about time the cops and guardia got off their fat arses and stopped hounding tourist motorists and done some real police work.
I do not like driving in Fuerty any longer, as you have to constantly be on your guard for speed traps, entrapment etc etc. There must be more speed limit signs in Fuerty than any where else in the world. You never know what the limit is as can be 90, then goes to 60, then 150mtrs on changes to 70 etc etc, dont have your lights on driving into Corry and they stick you for a fine. I find it more dangerous to drive continually watching your sensible speed and making sure they are not going to jump out onto a crossing just as you approach and then book you for failing to stop. Yes watched them do that in Cotillo opposite the supermarket, although they never seem to do it to the Majaheros in the big 4 x 4 trucks, surprise, surprise!!!
Got to say their actions hounding the tourist and ex pat motorist and their inaction at dealing with crimes is putting me off the island.
I could've written that post myself Danny.
Sums it up to a T Dan. :)
Why would they steal a Stool :'(
Quote from: woe10 on December 19, 2012, 15:59:47 PM
Why would they steal a Stool :'(
Your kidding Woe? Please tell me your aving a larf. ;D
They need the stool to take to the next burglary, so they can stand on it to climb through the window, of course.
Quote from: isleswing on December 19, 2012, 17:07:59 PM
They need the stool to take to the next burglary, so they can stand on it to climb through the window, of course.
You´re right, Not being a Burglar, I never thought of that 8)
I've had an apartment here for 14 years and lived in the outback of Tuineje for four years. I've been stopped maybe 4 or 5 times by the Guardia Civil in all that time. The crime level is so low here a couple of break ins causes a stir
I saw a guy killed being hit from behind by a lorry near Tarragona - at 4pm in the afternoon when the liquid lunch break was over - the lorry driver had fallen asleep at the wheel, drunk. I feel safer now than I did in those days - no one in their right minds drinks and drives in Fuerteventura, there is a good chance you'll be stopped and if you're over the very low limit fined and banned. A ban that is valid in the UK too!
50 mph seems a perfect speed limit to me - why would you want to go any faster, you'll miss the scenery, might hit a goat, and then you get to your destination 5 minutes sooner. Relax and enjoy the drive at a nice relaxed speed, it's really what this island is about. Road rage - what is that?
PS We're waiting to see the nationality of the crooks, anyone heard yet?
Agree with you Spike. Stopping and checking drivers is important in keeping the roads safer.
From what I have seen and heard Hire cars are one of their main targets.
Nobody with any sense would question the need to have regular checks for drink or drug driving. It goes without saying.Also stopping vans for stolen goods has to be done. Tourists aren't normally in vans. However being stopped twice and almost a third time driving on a day out from Lajares to corralejo at 11 in the morning in an obvious hire car is crazy policing. As dan says it can turn people off driving on the island when on holiday.
As for the 50 limit better off telling the local tailgaters and taxi drivers who seem to totally ignore them. Tourists are the least of their road problems as they are generally over cautious in my experience. The police on the island really do seem to have too much spare time on their hands.
I also think burglery is a lot more prevalent than people would have you beleive
Quote from: stedge on December 20, 2012, 08:11:27 AM
Nobody with any sense would question the need to have regular checks for drink or drug driving. It goes without saying.Also stopping vans for stolen goods has to be done. Tourists aren't normally in vans. However being stopped twice and almost a third time driving on a day out from Lajares to corralejo at 11 in the morning in an obvious hire car is crazy policing. As dan says it can turn people off driving on the island when on holiday.
As for the 50 limit better off telling the local tailgaters and taxi drivers who seem to totally ignore them. Tourists are the least of their road problems as they are generally over cautious in my experience. The police on the island really do seem to have too much spare time on their hands.
Spot on comments Stedge
Quote from: Paddster on December 19, 2012, 05:52:31 AM
Brilliant stuff that Fi,i bet there's tourists/homeowners out there that unfortunately are not on this Forum that would be greatly appreciative of your efforts to help and possibly could own some of the items in that picture too,good work,keep it up dear.... :) :)
I have been following the story for a friend of mine who was broken into recently Paddster. Some people have already been able to claim their stolen goods back.
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Paul, the English community were a great help to the Police with the break ins this time. I didnt hear the nationality of those caught already.
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I agree with you Stedge. Break ins are rife on the Island. Most people just dont get to hear about them, and a lot go unreported because a lot of people do not speak Spanish and feel unable to manage a police visit themselves to denounce the crime.
ah yes fifi the visit to the police station. Considering the whole show is run by tourism and the vast amount that seems to be spent on policing it wouldn't do their credibility any harm to cut out the' why should we speak anything other than spanish' attitude, provide interpreters, and treat the tourist for what they are... a well paying customer. They've forgotten over the years where their euros are actually coming from.
Yet again stedge - bang on comments..... :)
I have mentioned my dealings with the Guardia Civil when I grassed up a couple of dodgey characters who appeared ever day in car parks around the mountains in Pajara [the local news media had just reported a number of car break ins in this area!]. The officer concerned from Moro Jable communicated with me in English and the two men disappeared within days of me reporting their suspicious behavior, never to be seen again. You can provide reports by email in English on the main Guardia web site [Google it] and if you say you are English they provide an officer that speaks English to deal with your case
112, the emergency number here in Fuerteventura is multi lingual, Spanish, English and German at the point of first contact
One of the reasons we left Nottingham was that the police had lost control of certain areas of the city and feral gangs roamed the streets without fear. When 120 traveler caravans took over Nottingham racecourse for two weeks the police did nothing due to "human rights" issues.
So on balance.......................
PS How many languages do you think the police and other authorities should be prepared to deal with, 10, 20, 30 [remember Poles, Russians and other Eastern European states are now regular visitors here with money to spend, as are Asian people from the sub continent and China] .............or is it just English that would suit?
Not sure it carries any weight comparing the UK to fuerteventura but one thing i do know is that in the UK justice system language interpreters are provided free of charge from Albanian to Urdu. All down to the old British tax payer. But thats another story. Considering the vast amounts of revenue provided by tourism ( probably the only revenue) i dont believe it is too much to ask for a few multi lingual interpreters to be on call out to police premises. Something to remember here is that most of the nationalities you mention are well versed in the English language which should make things even easier. If you have a customer that pays good money you go the extra mile to keep them happy. Its good business in the long run. What you don't do is treat them as if they are a pain in the opening at the lower end of the alimentary canal through which solid waste is eliminated from the body.
This is Spain, Stedge. The language is Spanish.
The authorities deal in Spanish, and that's that.
Interpretators are available - one lives up the road from me.
Yes Spain is Spain captain. But its also 2012 not 1950. We've all moved on to better international intigration within the EU. Not so Spain it seems.By the way i know interpreters are available. I paid 40 euros for one a few weeks back.
Sorry Captain is right.....The Guardia do their best but within limits.If you go to France and expect the Gendarmerie to be integrated and speak multi lingo you are going to be disappointed as well.......If you are going on holiday, and or buying a property there then learn the language.....................as for the EU you can shove that where the sun dont shine as hard as you can....
If a tourist is robbed and they go down to the local police in Caleta they are given a number in Madrid to phone. I dont know why they bother suggesting that to be honest other than trying to find an English speaker. The local Police are unable to issue paperwork for insurance and the crime has to be denounced in Rosario anyway. I wonder how many tourists would be able to manage to find a translator and make it into Rosario within the period specified by the insurance companies? I think that it has to be done within about 24 hours. Its not easy.
Learn the language when you go on holiday?. Don't think thats too practical a solution. France's economy is bolstered by agriculture, industry and a multitude of other businesses. They don't rely soley on the revenue produced by tourism. Fuerteventuras does. And no i don't think captain is right, it wouldn't be too costly or too much of a hardship to make life a little easier for those who in the long run pay their wages. As fifi has just stated its a rubbish system and certainly not foreigner friendly.
I have to agree about the EU though)
We need a universal language. Oh, wait, we have one, Esperanto. But seeing as no one speaks it then it has to default to English. Can`t remember hearing much Polish or Russian or Chinese on QFM Spike.
I once got a "lift" from Rosario nick to Corralejo after helping the police with their enquiries, the two career type college boy shamus`s in the front babbled away to each other, never said a blind word to me all the way until I got out and then they thanked me and wished me a safe journey home. In perfect English.
QFM was an English speaking station, Hola FM is a German speaking station all privately finanaced and aimed at a particular audience - no comparison with a government oranisation
Taking this off original topic but feel the need to respond to the moans about road signs and traffic fines.
The roads on this island are first class compared to the UK, there are speed indications signs every where to ensure the speed of the motorist is compatible with the road conditions, ie if you are approaching a steep bend on a 90kph you will initially be slowed to 70 and then if required a 50, also there will be similar reductions approaching villages, junctions, roundabouts and known blackspots, it is all done in the name of safety and makes perfect sense, also being so many speed signs you should never be caught speeding, if you are don't look to blame anyone else. Lights on going toward Corry was to assist in vehicle visibility during the admittedly rare road works, signs at either end of the road works indicate this requirement.
Take a wander into Fragiles in Cotillo and ask a local if they get stopped, make sure your fully conversant with local sweary words if you want to fully understand.
The majority of road policing actions are carried out by Guardia Civil Traffico (the clue is in the name), other departments and Policia will stop you but only if an offence has been perceived to be committed. I dont think their speeding policy is any different to the one in the UK, where there are many more fixed speed cameras, unmarked cars, overbridge speed traps, random speed checks, average speed cameras to name but a few.
There are laws and restrictions on this island that don't seem to make sense to us expats, but they are their laws and if you choose to ignore them then you will pay the consequences. I am speaking from experience being done once for speeding, which I was, but only just and failing to stop at a crossing in Corry.
The main difference I find here is that you are found to be in contravention of a driving law, you will be fined, no warning, no second chance, just like back home it is a big fund raising scam being perpetrated on the easy target motorist, but not unique to Fuerte which is a great and safe place to drive
All what you say may be true. But not the issue. Its that the amount of road blocks with vehicle and passenger checks, a good 60% or more of which must be holidaymakers in hire cars, is out of all proportion to whats needed to keep the roads safe. It may well be their way of doing it but it doesn't mean we all have to like it.
We are very fortunate in the "civilised"world. We have choices, if we don't like somewhere, the politics, the culture ,the food, etc. we can stay away. I know there are places I have visited I will NEVER return. I don't publicise the fact, I just stay away. I'm sure there are places in the world where the local police believe that the level of police intervention imposed in their area is lower than here in Fuerteventura. It is up to the local authorities and their employees ruled by local elections that decide. It appears a number of people that live here accept the level of "stops"as a method of catching law breakers. I don't see any calls for change from the local populace
its quite hard to stay away when you own a house there and not a snowflakes chance in hell of selling it. But you're happy with it all well and good. Personally i would much prefer it if they'd switch a few traffic officers off the roads and concentrate more effort into burglery which appears to be increasing. Just my preference you understand.
I know what you mean stedge - I wish I could sell my house in Nottingham, where the Nottingham Constabulary were found be be the least effective police force in the UK, where gun crime is the highest in the UK, drug dealing rife, feral gangs rule many areas, etc. etc.
Have heard that Nottingham has a reputation for being a bit iffy spike. Not a case of robbing the rich and giving to the poor any more either. Anyway wherever we may be and whatever the police force i'm forgetting it all over the next week. Happy Xmas to you
Great way to end a thread stedge - Happy Christmas everyone xx