Fuerteventura Forum

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2205314/Ryanair-courting-disaster-flying-planes-near-fuel-tanks-cut-costs.html#ixzz26uWnrfEo (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2205314/Ryanair-courting-disaster-flying-planes-near-fuel-tanks-cut-costs.html#ixzz26uWnrfEo)

I read in the press recently, that Ryanair have been rerported to the authorities, for having too many mayday calls and emergency landings. The latest of which was in Tenerife last week.

A flight from Tenerife had to divert to Paris due to lack of fuel. Frightening  :'(

There's lots of negative press about them at the moment, the past few days they have been on the Spanish news a lot.

As Micheal would say there is no such thing as bad publicty especially as it is free.

All these scare stories are just that and without much merit when you look at them a bit more closely...The pressure to not overload fuel is now very common among ALL airlines. That being said O`Leary has never been bothered about making friends and has been very disparaging to many. He cant be suprised when people start to turn half truths and rumours into stories to shaft him with. After all thats what he has been doing for years.. :-*

     

Putting on my anorak for a moment.....I read recently in a railway magazine that on the last run of the Pines Express over the S&D in the 'sixties, the locomotive driver didn't fill the tender with water as he felt the engine was working hard enough without dragging an extra 10 tons of weight about. So running, or flying, with less than full tanks is nothing new and I well know that it has been practised in the shipping, road haulage, and rail industries as well as aviation for many a year. I have been in at least one car, coach and train that has ran out of fuel and a vomit comet fast ferry that had to reduce speed to conserve fuel to limp into port. All of the Ryanair cases I have seen which made mayday calls or diverts still landed with MORE than the bare legal minimum fuel reserves. So I personally am not bothered but I can see why Ryanair get singled out by the anti brigade as they don't go out of their way to make friends.

I just wonder whether some of these "emergency landings" are because the flight is running late and the pilot fears the wrath of MO'L if the return flight is late?
I have read before that R.A. pilots are penalised for late running.

I seem to remember in the dim and distant past a plane landing in a field, it just made it across the channel. Can anyone with a memory superior to mine fill in the detail? It was such a rare event that it helps substantiate fatboab`s comment about the planes still having more than the legal minimum of fuel when they landed.

I like the Pilots Rumour Network forum for information on this sort of thing.
There are currently 5 Ryanair threads there:
http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news-13/ (http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news-13/)

I wouldnt take PPrune with anything other than a large pinch of salt tbh.. However the Irish Authorities have produced their investigation into the `Valencia Diversion` issues which put this issue to bed...No doubt the Spaniards will disagree with it it but here it is:

The Irish Aviation Authority (IAA) released their result of their investigation into the fuel emergencies concluding:

- The aircraft in all three cases departed for Madrid with fuel in excess of Flight Plan requirements.

- The Crew diverted to Valencia with fuel in excess of the minimum diversion fuel depicted on the Flight Plan.

- Diverting with fuel close to minimum diversion fuel in the circumstances presented on the evening in question was likely to present challenges for the crew. Initial holding was to the Southwest of Madrid which increased the diversion time to the alternate.

- The Crew declared an Emergency in accordance with EU-OPS when the calculated usable fuel for landing at Valencia was less than final reserve.

- The Met conditions in Madrid were more significant than anticipated by the Crew when reviewing the Met Forecast. Consequently the additional fuel carried was influenced by the forecast.

- Operations into a busy airport such as Madrid in Thunderstorm conditions with the associated traffic levels can add significant delays to all traffic.

- Air Traffic Control in Valencia was under significant pressure with the number of diversions arriving in their airspace.


With acknowledgement to The Aviation Herald

Just when you think that Ryanair have had their day ....

http://www.tumbit.com/news/articles/6029-irish-aviation-authority-absolve-ryanair.html (http://www.tumbit.com/news/articles/6029-irish-aviation-authority-absolve-ryanair.html)

Quote from: falkirkdan on September 19, 2012, 17:49:44 PM
As Micheal would say there is no such thing as bad publicty especially as it is free.

I'm not sure about that anyone remember Gerald Ratner  :D

Quote from: zedzedeleven on September 20, 2012, 08:48:56 AM
I seem to remember in the dim and distant past a plane landing in a field, it just made it across the channel. Can anyone with a memory superior to mine fill in the detail? It was such a rare event that it helps substantiate fatboab`s comment about the planes still having more than the legal minimum of fuel when they landed.

Yes, I have read about that  :-*

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Bl%C3%A9riot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Bl%C3%A9riot)

Very funny! no, not the one I saw on the telly a few years ago.

Made it - 2 Ryanair flights in three days and didn't have to pedal once - and ontime fanfares on both flightss!!!