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Title: Internet Speedtest
Post by: Carlo on September 27, 2012, 11:52:01 AM
Did one of these tests, just wondering what everyone else's in Fuerte is like. Here's my pitiful results -

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/2204843045.png)

You can do the test here - http://www.speedtest.net/ (http://www.speedtest.net/)
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: Deso on September 27, 2012, 12:04:38 PM
What speed is your line rated at, or what speed are you paying for?

Do you have your router stats, line attenuation, SNR.?  These will be found by logging in to your router.


Just noticed in another thread you should have 10meg connection.
What were your speeds when it first went in?

Try movistars speed test here       http://www.testsdevelocidad.es/ (http://www.testsdevelocidad.es/)
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: Carlo on September 27, 2012, 12:27:18 PM
I'm paying for up to 10mb, I think that's the catch mate. The highest I've had on one of those tests is around 3.6mb. I've never had any problems with it per se but was just curious as to what speeds others were getting in Fuerte. Incidentally, that other test you posted doesn't seem to work for me.

I'll try logging in to the router and see what the stats are.
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: Deso on September 27, 2012, 12:36:33 PM
Have a look at this thread  http://www.fuerteventura-forum.com/index.php?topic=6128.120 (http://www.fuerteventura-forum.com/index.php?topic=6128.120)  page 5 and you will see where Ben has posted his stats, it will give you an idea of what you're looking for.  :)
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: Carlo on September 27, 2012, 12:44:43 PM
Sound mate, nice one  ;)
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: ben90125 on September 27, 2012, 14:59:19 PM
Here's mine

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/2205959142.png)

I ran a speed test at the internet cafe which isn't too far from me, like a 7 minute walk and they get 5MB/s or so, but I'm not sure if mine is as it should or if there's a fault causing it to drop a bit.

Also I was told there are 2 Exchanges for Nuevo Horizonte so not sure which I actually connect with.
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: fourthwisemonkey on September 27, 2012, 21:27:21 PM
I am with orange and currently pay for a 6 meg connection. Usual line speed is about 7.5 Meg. Where I am it is possible for a 10 meg connection with movistar (orange will not offer this currently) and i have checked 2 or 3 10 meg connections and they are not far off (over 9 meg).

Due to various factors you may not get what you want BUT if the max you can get is 3.5 then tell the provider to downgrade your contract to úp to 6 meg´ although i think the difference is only about a euro per month. Remember that the cables here are not always the best (especially within a complex) and whilst distance to exchange means you should get more bandwidth it is not always the case. It helps if you know the local movistar installer as he can check exactly what you can get as opposed to what they say you can get.

As Deso says, if you know what to look for (try google etc) then check your line attenuation and SNR in the router although do be aware that this info can be doctored by the provider (I use a non proprietal router which is obviously not doctored by the service provider). Also it sounds silly but re-boot the router about 5 mins before carrying out a speedtest and see if there is a difference.
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: Deso on September 27, 2012, 22:32:55 PM
Thes were Bens stats a couple of weeks ago.

                           Downstream    Upstream
Rate(Kbps)              2539               317
           
SNR Margin(dB)      6.0                   24.9
Attenuation(dB)      36.8              63.0

The SNR Margin has been changing all day, between 6 and 10.

That's probably the best they have been all day, usually it was between 1-2 and only connecting for 5 minutes at a time.



In theory he should be getting a much better speed on a 10meg line but the SNR keeps dropping down which is not good. Also, the upstream attenuation is a bit weird.

Do you know if Telefonica's master sockets screw terminals or push in type?
I can bring my insertion tool over if needs be.  :)
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: SheilaW on September 27, 2012, 23:31:34 PM
I'm with Movistar at Tamaragua with a 10mg connection and I've seen over 8 mg delivered. I wouldn't be at all happy with 2MB - must be a problem somewhere.
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: ben90125 on September 28, 2012, 01:44:19 AM
Yeah I'm not exactly happy with 2MB tbh but I'll wait and see what Deso thinks when he comes and take's a look then I'll go from there.
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: fourthwisemonkey on September 28, 2012, 17:19:06 PM
Deso
Generally the incoming line from movistar comes into the junction box in the house on standard Krone connections so will need insertion tool. From there it then distributes internally around the sockets in the house which are often as not screw terminals. Usual problem is the fact that if the property has 3 sockets in the house then these are triple jumpered on the krone connector which often forces apart the connection resulting in a higher impedance or even dis.

In my place I simply re-jumpered so that the only live socket is the one I use for the router/phone....all others remaining dis unless I need them in the future when I will rewire the krone connection or wrap & solder the other extensions
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: Deso on September 28, 2012, 18:45:54 PM
This particular system is in an old holiday complex so is very likely using what was the old internal phone system.
First thing I want to do is remake the socket, using the master only as you have done and see what we get.
If we get no joy from that, then methinks it is down to Telefonica to sort.  :'(
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: fourthwisemonkey on September 28, 2012, 19:03:18 PM
Any idea what the spanish is for ´woosh test´   :-)
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: fourthwisemonkey on September 28, 2012, 19:11:13 PM
from the snr results looks like either the dodgy connection at master socket but if fluctuating wildly it does look more like a line problem. Be interesting to know if improved or worsened during recent rain.

Had one recently and problem traced to incoming cable from local junction box to property. Insulation chewed by rats and consequently getting drop outs at irregular intervals and actually losing phone from time to time as well.

Cable in street replaced/jointed by telefonica and all is now good.

Trouble is in old complexes that carried phone only...there may well be electrical cables running in same conduits and if the insulation is breaking down on either/both then could be increased capacitance and or noise hence reduced adsl performance. (especially if snr is actually 6 or so....not good)
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: ben90125 on September 28, 2012, 19:42:12 PM
Yeah, definitely a problem somewhere I just don't know where :P It was really bad for the first 2 weeks, but since then I can usually go a week or more without it dropping out.

The day we had rain it was worse, that night was the first time in about 2/3 weeks it dropped out :(

I am pretty sure there's a problem with the Socket though as when it dropped out if I was to listen to the phone and move the wire about a bit I could hear static and when I found a nice quiet spot it would reconnect.


Also I'm sure my PC hates this place, so far since moving here I have lost my PSU (luckily had a spare but do need to replace it) and last night I find out my HDD is dying, so I've had to wipe my other HDD to reinstall Windows and I'm now down 200GB in storage :P
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: Deso on September 28, 2012, 21:22:58 PM
Quote from: ben90125 on September 28, 2012, 19:42:12 PM
Yeah, definitely a problem somewhere I just don't know where :P It was really bad for the first 2 weeks, but since then I can usually go a week or more without it dropping out.

The day we had rain it was worse, that night was the first time in about 2/3 weeks it dropped out :(

I am pretty sure there's a problem with the Socket though as when it dropped out if I was to listen to the phone and move the wire about a bit I could hear static and when I found a nice quiet spot it would reconnect.


Also I'm sure my PC hates this place, so far since moving here I have lost my PSU (luckily had a spare but do need to replace it) and last night I find out my HDD is dying, so I've had to wipe my other HDD to reinstall Windows and I'm now down 200GB in storage :P

Apart from that, life is great!!   :D
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: ben90125 on September 28, 2012, 21:26:10 PM
Quote from: Deso on September 28, 2012, 21:22:58 PM

Apart from that, life is great!!   :D

Yeah except my PC is my baby :P Just gotta save for some replacements :D
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: Deso on September 28, 2012, 21:55:20 PM
How much do they want for a PSU over there?
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: ben90125 on September 28, 2012, 22:14:32 PM
No idea tbh, haven't been and looked, was gonna order from the UK
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: Deso on September 28, 2012, 22:27:02 PM
Have a look here....  www.microdirect.co.uk (http://www.microdirect.co.uk)   

If you want anything and let me know before Monday, I can pick up and bring out for you.  :)
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: ben90125 on September 28, 2012, 22:38:21 PM
This is what I was looking to get, but from a different website, price is around the same though.

http://www.microdirect.co.uk/Home/Product/54649/OCZ-CoreXStream-Series-500W-PSU (http://www.microdirect.co.uk/Home/Product/54649/OCZ-CoreXStream-Series-500W-PSU)

If you could get that for me I would be so grateful.
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: fourthwisemonkey on September 29, 2012, 17:29:40 PM
I would advise getting a small UPS or at least an anti surge plug for your PC (UPS would be better)
Basically the mains voltage here is erratic to say the least and I have monitored the voltage before now and have seen it swing by as much as 20V during a few seconds.
Electrical kit does not like this fluctuation and least a UPS will help smooth out the supply to your PC PSU.

From experience suggest you do not go for a cheap PSU as often a false economy as the outputs are often not stable under load and its better to invest 20 or 30 euro more on your PSU than end up with a fried mobo or cpu. The OCZ range are usually okay.
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: ben90125 on September 29, 2012, 18:37:47 PM
Yeah I do need a surge protector tbh, reason my PSU died was because of plugging it into a certain socket that I now know is dodgy.

Know any places that sell them?

Yeah I wanted the OCZ as there a fairly good brand, luckily when my PSU went it didn't take anything else with it, but tbh it was about 6/7 years old so it had a good life.

Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: woe10 on September 29, 2012, 19:37:54 PM
Ben, you didn´t make it clear. Is your computer a laptop or a Tower type computer. To me this is a PC, and a laptop is a laptop. For your PC spares go to the shop I suggested on the other posting. For laptop bits such as PSUs, batterys and hard drives, I have always bought on Ebay from Hong Kong. The cheapest and so far most reliable and no problems with anything.   
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: ben90125 on September 29, 2012, 19:42:20 PM
It's a Tower type, I will be checking that shop out soon but I'd prefer to order my PSU from UK, because I know the quality of it and can be pretty sure it won't destroy any of my components if it somehow breaks.
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: Deso on September 29, 2012, 20:41:26 PM
Ben, can you use an IDE hard drive, I have one spare due to buying a SATA one. I can bring it if you want it.
Second hand but tested and formatted clean. It will nly be going in the bin otherwise.  :)
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: ben90125 on September 29, 2012, 21:16:25 PM
Don't think I can, unless you have the IDE Cable (assume you as you just replaced it), I threw my old 1 away a year ago when I got rid of my old IDE drive. (just out of interest whats the storage capacity on it?)
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: Deso on September 29, 2012, 23:08:42 PM
375gb, I can probably find a cable if you want it. Let me know one way or the other.
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: ben90125 on September 29, 2012, 23:22:19 PM
If you are able to find a cable for it, I'd be more than grateful to take it.

Really hoping your able to find and sort the issue I'm having, it's been a lot worse this past week dc'ing randomly and stuff.
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: fourthwisemonkey on September 29, 2012, 23:41:42 PM
Electron sell surge protectors and small UPS´s. Also do a surge protector which will switch off all the other ccts connected once your pc is off (ie printer, monitor etc). Used one of these for a few years and saves having to remember to power down everything after logging off. (about 25€ for surge and about 60€ for UPS)

If still having problems in future or if Deso needs a hand then let me know...if available and in the area then happy to help out.
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: ben90125 on September 30, 2012, 00:01:32 AM
Cool would be great, if he can't sort the issue I'll have to call Telefonica and see if they will sort it.

Where is Electron?
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: Deso on September 30, 2012, 09:18:40 AM
Thanks for the offer FWM.  :D

Ben, do you know where Norty Sur is in Rosario?  Electron is next but one building up, where the car park is.

Basically NS as we knew it now consists of 3 shops. The two extra ones are furniture/clothes/kids stuff and homewares and then there is the electrical warehouse, Electron.
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: ben90125 on September 30, 2012, 10:51:02 AM
Ah ok, haven't seen it but I have a rough idea where it is, thanks.
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: appy ammer on September 30, 2012, 11:07:41 AM
bit slow today

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/2211615253.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: ben90125 on September 30, 2012, 11:17:10 AM
No Fibre Optic links please, thanks :D
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: woe10 on September 30, 2012, 12:22:06 PM
Appy´s just a show-off ;)
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: Deso on September 30, 2012, 12:52:55 PM
That's actually quite poor for a VM 50meg connection.  :D

Then you get capped if you download too much during the day.  :(

At least with Carlo's and Bens speed, they won't reach their download limit.  ;D
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: ben90125 on September 30, 2012, 15:42:19 PM
Never got to experience FO, came to my area about 6 month's before I left the UK, kinda glad tbh, don't think I'd have dealt with going from 40mb+ down to a max of 10mb (more likely 3 in my case :P)
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: ben90125 on October 01, 2012, 11:19:44 AM
God my net's been bad since yesterday, dc'ing every 30 mins or so and only syncing at about 1000KBps max :(
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: Deso on October 01, 2012, 12:43:54 PM
Houston, we have a problem.   :'(

I have the PSU now.   :D

Did you get any significant rain yesterday?
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: ben90125 on October 01, 2012, 13:01:33 PM
Not in Nuevo Horizonte, was just fairly cloudy in the afternoon, but was poor from about 6pm onwards and is still pretty bad now, it will connect but as soon as I try and play a game online it dc's.

Also thanks for getting the PSU, really appreciate it.
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: appy ammer on October 01, 2012, 18:30:09 PM
Quote from: Deso on September 30, 2012, 12:52:55 PM
That's actually quite poor for a VM 50meg connection.  :D

Then you get capped if you download too much during the day.  :(

At least with Carlo's and Bens speed, they won't reach their download limit.  ;D

Deso its unlimited and i was 300 yards on me wifi in the stables ;D
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: Deso on October 02, 2012, 22:07:43 PM
 :D :D :D :P
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: ben90125 on October 02, 2012, 23:51:20 PM
Well today has been much better, it's been stable and synced at about 2.9mb
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: Deso on October 03, 2012, 17:49:45 PM
Did you move any wires?  How is it today?
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: ben90125 on October 03, 2012, 18:11:14 PM
Well I was moving them around Monday night but haven't since then, been fine since yesterday morning.
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: Deso on October 03, 2012, 19:28:52 PM
OK, make sure nothing gets disturbed now and lets see how it goes.  :)
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: ben90125 on October 03, 2012, 19:52:08 PM
Yeah :P
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: ben90125 on October 08, 2012, 16:19:29 PM
Big thanks to Deso, just came and brought me my PSU and also connected a new faceplate socket for my internet, hopefully it's more stable now.

Thanks again.
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: ben90125 on October 28, 2012, 11:38:20 AM
Well I found out that my Attenuation is a lot higher than I thought, instead of 34 it's actually 60, that explains why my sync speed is so low :(
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: Deso on October 28, 2012, 12:40:36 PM
I was thinking about that and I wondered if your upload and download were being reported the wrong way round.  :o

Are you still getting around 3 meg?

I am back over in 6 weeks so if you still want that hard drive, which I forgot to bring round, let me know.  :D
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: ben90125 on October 28, 2012, 13:40:48 PM
Yeah, the router was displaying it the wrong way, using my Belkin one now instead, wasn't able to use it before you swapped the socket.

If you could that would be great, thanks.

Also is it possible for Movistar to connect me to the other exchange as I was told by someone on here that there's 2 exchanges near me.
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: ben90125 on November 05, 2012, 20:11:04 PM
Not sure what's happening but these last few days my connection has been so up and down...
Title: Re: Internet Speedtest
Post by: ben90125 on November 09, 2012, 21:47:20 PM
Past week has been so bad, It won't sync higher than 1.8meg and half the time it will reset a few times before it stays connected. Also when we receive a phone call the internet also drops.

Another thing, Deso, the splitter is not plugging into the wall socket properly, it isn't actually clipping in, just pushed in but comes out just by pulling it.